[chefhow]

Originally Posted by KYHeirloomer

>via the water they use, its from the same place <

Chefhow, if this is indeed true, then you are saying that the conventional farm has contaminated the water table with its use of synthetic chemicals. Your argument is therefore an admission that conventional farming poisons the environment.

I never said that the conventional farms arent putting chemicals into the water table but to call them poisonous when we have been eating them for decades and its still not killing ppl is a stretch.

Putting aside the public health issues that infers, it's also a good argument for using organic methods.

And how do you justify something being a poison when it's in the water, but being safe and beneficial when it coats your tomatoes?

>Its more expensive because the farmer feels that they need to be one with the earth and do it by hand, hence my reason in the begining. <

I suggest that you visit a couple of organic farms---both real ones, and the organic divisions of factory farms---and see how things are being done. It's obvious that you have no idea how things are grown in either case. I know all kinds of organic growers, all across the country. Every one of them owns tractors, and cultivators, and all the other necessary accountrements of market growing. If you're impressed with equipment you need to check out the self-propelled, multi-row vacumns used by the factory farms to "control" insect pests.

I have visited several commercial farms, I live in the middle of Central Pa farm country, my ex wife grew up on a working farm, I used to go as a kid to the farms and pick fresh produce in South Miami every weekend with my Aunt and Mother while my Uncle and Father were working out contracts for our family grocery stores, I know how its done. I was speaking tongue and cheek because the poster who said it said they weed t by hand and compared it to me being on my hands and knees weeding my flower beds. I may have been a weee bit on the sarcastic side...

It's bad enough that the average consumer has no idea where his food comes from or how it gets to the market. It's positively scary when a so-called professional is equally in the dark.

See above, but I will agree with you about the average consumer.

There are all sorts of reasons why produce grown on diverse organic farms is more expensive to produce, none of which include doing things as if we were back in the early 19th century.

My whole post was in reference to Dillberts post which interestingly enough has been deleted. Go figure....