ChefTalk Cooking Forums
    Cooking ArticlesCookbook ReviewsCooking ForumsRecipesCooking Glossary  

Welcome to the ChefTalk Cooking Forums forums.

You are currently viewing our boards as a guest which gives you limited access to view most discussions and access our other features. By joining our free community you will have access to post topics, communicate privately with other members (PM), respond to polls, upload content and access many other special features. Registration is fast, simple and absolutely free so please, join our community today!

If you have any problems with the registration process or your account login, please contact contact us.

Go Back   ChefTalk Cooking Forums > Food and Cooking Forums > Beverage Reviews
Register Blogs Photo Gallery FAQ Members List Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read

Beverage Reviews Reviews, commentary, and updates on a variety of beverages, thanks to our friends at BevReview.com.

Reply
 
Thread Tools
  #1  
Old 09-18-2007, 12:11 AM
shel's Avatar
Registered User
Culinary Experience: Cook At Home
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: San Francisco Bay Area, California, USA
Posts: 2,678
shel is on a distinguished road
Default Health Problems with Diet Sodas

Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links

  #2  
Old 09-18-2007, 04:02 AM
foodnfoto's Avatar
Registered User
Culinary Experience: Food Editor
 
Join Date: Dec 2000
Location: NY, USA
Posts: 1,002
foodnfoto is on a distinguished road
Default

It is interesting that there are now studies showing that diet versions of sodas are not as healthy as one might think. I've always had problems with ingesting foods and beverages that contain low- or no- calorie sweeteners. Although I know this is clearly anecdotal, my experience when drinking diet soda is something that feels vaguely like a UTI.

I love gingerale and coca cola, but now only opt for sodas that are made with pure cane sugar and skip any with HFCS or Nutrasweet or Splenda.

That cloyingly sweet aftertaste does not make my limitation too difficult anyway.
Iced tea with lemon is an easy and cheap alternative.
__________________
She's my little biscuit-eater!

Too much pork for just one fork.

Liquored up and laquered down,
She's got the biggest hair in town!
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 09-18-2007, 07:01 AM
shel's Avatar
Registered User
Culinary Experience: Cook At Home
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: San Francisco Bay Area, California, USA
Posts: 2,678
shel is on a distinguished road
Default

Hi Foodn ....

The link I posted was just one of several I came across. There are enough studies to give the consumer of these drinks something to think about. I found more studies and information about the harmful effects of HFCS, but in truth, I wasn't really looking for info about the potentially harmful effects of diet sodas - the info just popped up while looking for other things.

Iced tea with lemon is a great cooling drink in hot weather, as is .... water. Also, juices made with real fruit can be nice, no sugar, artificial sweetners, or corn syrup needed. Fresh watermelon juice with mint is nice, fresh-made apple juice with ginger and seltzer is a favorite here, as is plain, fresh-made apple juice, freshly squeezed grapefruit juice and other citrus, etc.

http://www.cheftalk.com/forums/recip...er-cooler.html

Like you, I rarely drink soda any more, and am staying away from processed juices as well. Many of the commercial juices are loaded with sugar water and other ingredients. If one cares about what they're eating/drinking, it's important to read the product labels. What's really in the bottle may not be what seems to be in the bottle.

Better get off my soap box ...

Shel

Last edited by shel : 09-18-2007 at 07:07 AM.
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 09-20-2007, 02:06 AM
Registered User
Culinary Experience: I Just Like Food
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Posts: 99
Jenyfari is on a distinguished road
Default

Diet sodas have been linked to a large number of different problems. I just don't like the stuff - it has a chemical taste. Then again I am not a fan of soda drinks in general.
__________________
Jenyfari from Only Cookware - A Consumer Guide to Cookware
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 10-04-2007, 07:34 PM
Registered User
Culinary Experience: Food Editor
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Posts: 27
Tasty Thoughts is on a distinguished road
Default

While I actually enjoy a diet soda occasionally, I far prefer water or seltzer. I recently found blueberry and pomegranite seltzer. They are quite flavorful, a fun beverage that even my kids think of as a treat!
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 10-05-2007, 07:17 AM
Mezzaluna's Avatar
Cafe Moderator
Culinary Experience: Cook At Home
 
Join Date: Aug 2000
Location: Wisconsin USA
Posts: 8,271
Mezzaluna is on a distinguished road
Unhappy

For those of us with diabetes (and mine appears to be genetically based), there are very few choices if one wants sweetness without sugar or chemical sweeteners. As innocuous and "natural" as honey and fruit juices may seem, to my body they are SUGAR- period. I'm limited to about 150 carbs per day by my doctor, so drinking 30 or 40 or 50 of them in a drink isn't a good nutritional bargain for me, even if they are natural fruit juices. I'm trying to limit my intake because I think it boosts my craving for sweets, but I cannot eliminate Splenda or Equal (my usual choices) completely.
__________________
Moderator, Welcome Forum
***It is better to ask forgiveness than beg permission.***
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 10-05-2007, 08:55 AM
shel's Avatar
Registered User
Culinary Experience: Cook At Home
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: San Francisco Bay Area, California, USA
Posts: 2,678
shel is on a distinguished road
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mezzaluna View Post
For those of us with diabetes (and mine appears to be genetically based), there are very few choices if one wants sweetness without sugar or chemical sweeteners.
What about Xylitol ... I've tried it a few times and found it has a nice taste (not exactly like sugar, but close enough in most cases, and better than Splenda and that other horror, Aspartame). The made-in-USA or Canadian Birch bark derived stuff is my Xylitol of choice, but it's sometimes very hard to come by. There's also Stevia, which I've not tried.

Shel
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 10-05-2007, 09:57 AM
Mezzaluna's Avatar
Cafe Moderator
Culinary Experience: Cook At Home
 
Join Date: Aug 2000
Location: Wisconsin USA
Posts: 8,271
Mezzaluna is on a distinguished road
Smile

Shel, I do consume candy, etc. made with xylitol, maltitol and isomalt, however, I find the side effects of these substances are annoying (I won't detail them ) . I tried stevia some time ago and didn't like the aftertaste at all.
__________________
Moderator, Welcome Forum
***It is better to ask forgiveness than beg permission.***
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 10-05-2007, 03:30 PM
shel's Avatar
Registered User
Culinary Experience: Cook At Home
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: San Francisco Bay Area, California, USA
Posts: 2,678
shel is on a distinguished road
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mezzaluna View Post
Shel, I do consume candy, etc. made with xylitol, maltitol and isomalt, however, I find the side effects of these substances are annoying (I won't detail them ) . I tried stevia some time ago and didn't like the aftertaste at all.
I understand what the side effects are, although I've never experienced them, even after eating an entire candy bar made with, IIRC, sorbitol. I guess I'm lucky.

Shel
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 10-05-2007, 05:27 PM
Registered User
Culinary Experience: I Just Like Food
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: USA
Posts: 786
Free Rider is on a distinguished road
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Jenyfari View Post
Diet sodas have been linked to a large number of different problems. I just don't like the stuff - it has a chemical taste. Then again I am not a fan of soda drinks in general.
It actually is a chemical, isn't it? Taste gives it away.
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #11  
Old 10-06-2007, 03:38 PM
shel's Avatar
Registered User
Culinary Experience: Cook At Home
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: San Francisco Bay Area, California, USA
Posts: 2,678
shel is on a distinguished road
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mezzaluna View Post
For those of us with diabetes (and mine appears to be genetically based), there are very few choices if one wants sweetness without sugar or chemical sweeteners. As innocuous and "natural" as honey and fruit juices may seem, to my body they are SUGAR- period. I'm limited to about 150 carbs per day by my doctor
What about just eating - maybe drinking - plain old fresh fruit and fresh fruit juice. My favorites right now are grapefruit, cantaloupe, and apples (the small local natural foods market here has 34 varieties of apples now, all either locally or USA grown). Of course, I enjoy other fruits as well, although these are, for me, the most refreshing - oh, and grapes, too, but only in limited quantites because of the way their sugar affects me. Cantaloupe is at the end of the season, but grapefruit and apples are coming on strong. My juicer's broken, so I just eat the fruit plain, but my juicer works in such a way to give lots of pulp and fiber.

Shel
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old 10-06-2007, 07:29 PM
Mezzaluna's Avatar
Cafe Moderator
Culinary Experience: Cook At Home
 
Join Date: Aug 2000
Location: Wisconsin USA
Posts: 8,271
Mezzaluna is on a distinguished road
Default

You'd think "whole fruit" juices would be good, but actually the fresh fruit is a better dietary bargain for me because you get more fiber from the whole fruit than from the juice, which has its virtues. I suppose juice from a juicer would be better, but I don't own one.
__________________
Moderator, Welcome Forum
***It is better to ask forgiveness than beg permission.***
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #13  
Old 10-06-2007, 08:05 PM
shel's Avatar
Registered User
Culinary Experience: Cook At Home
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: San Francisco Bay Area, California, USA
Posts: 2,678
shel is on a distinguished road
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mezzaluna View Post
You'd think "whole fruit" juices would be good, but actually the fresh fruit is a better dietary bargain for me because you get more fiber from the whole fruit than from the juice, which has its virtues. I suppose juice from a juicer would be better, but I don't own one.
Yes, it was the fiber I was thinking of. When I said fresh fruit juice, I didn't mean bottled or canned - to me fresh means freshly made, at home or at a juice bar, made with a juicer. And it was the fiber I was thinking about when suggesting fresh fruit.

Some fruits can be juiced with a blender. There's a nice orange-banana-papaya juice I sometimes enjoy for breakfast, maybe throw some berries into it as well. <ango is great - mango-papaya is greater still <LOL> Refreshing, loaded with fiber, and will keep nicely in the coldest part of the fridge for a day or so - just seal tightly. They freeze well, too.

Watermelon juices great that way also. Add a sprig or two if mint, or some lemon/lime juice, and y'got a cool refrshing summer-early fall beverage. You can even make a nice grapefruit juice in the blender - likewise orange juice (but not quit as good by itself as grapefruit, IMO), but orange-pineapple is great - lotsa fiber.

Some stand mixers have optional juicer attachments. Don't know how well they work ...

Shel

Last edited by shel : 10-07-2007 at 06:45 PM.
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #14  
Old 10-15-2007, 02:53 PM
Registered User
Culinary Experience: I Just Like Food
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Posts: 24
shortstack is on a distinguished road
Default

I think the bigger problem is how much soda people are drinking. I know people who drink 3-5 a day. It's not a substitute for water (neither are things like Vitamin Water, for that matter...that stuff is so loaded with sugar). The occasional soda is okay, as is the occasional treat of any kind. The real problem, I think, is that people aren't getting enough of the good stuff in their diets any more-- fresh foods that aren't processed so much that they can last on your shelf for a year without even starting to go bad.
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links

Reply


Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are Off

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Chefs' Health Stewey Professional Chefs Forum 11 12-19-2006 07:28 AM
health insurance beckynyc Professional Catering Forum 2 11-13-2002 03:55 AM
in sickness and in health SlaveGirl Professional Chefs Forum 9 04-03-2002 11:50 PM
Learning about your diet and it's relation to your health W.DeBord Food & Cooking Questions and Discussion 24 10-31-2001 04:15 PM


All times are GMT -7. The time now is 01:07 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.6.9
Copyright ©2000 - 2008, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.1.0
© 1998 - 2006 ChefTalk.com • All rights reservedAd Management by RedTyger

1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 48 49 50 51 52 53 54 55 56 57 58 59 60 61 62 63 64 65 66 67 68 69 70 71 72 73 74 75 76 77 78 79 80 81 82 83 84 85 86 87 88 89 90 91 92 93 94 95 96 97 98 99 100 101 102 103 104 105 106 107 108 109 110 111 112 113 114 115 116 117