Kitchenaid Mixers ...

[shel]

Have the newer Kitchenaid mixers been cheapened? Did they used to be brawnier and more durable? Are some current models better than others? What's the relationship with Kitchenaid and Hobart?
I heard there a place (southeastern US) that sells rebuilt older odels, and does major repairs and rebuilding of the earlier Kitchenaid machines. Can't find them on the 'net But I'm sure i saw a reference to them. Anyone know the place I'm describing?

Kind regards,

Shel

[Marzoli]

I have an ordinary KitchenAid mixer-the first one died on the second or third use so I sent it back to the factory and they sent me a new one. So far, so good, but I don't use a mixer much.
I think they must be lighter weight and less reliable than the earlier ones.
Isn't Hobart the original that became KitchenAid or something like that?

[stir it up]

The KitchenAid Professional mixer is different than all the brightly colored ones you often see in the department stores.

Mine (KitchenAid Pro) has 350 Watts, and comes with metal beaters including the dough hook. The department store ones generally have less. If on yours the mixer part flips up, you definitely have a lower power model. If the bowl drops down and the upper part stays fixed, you may have a Professional.

Costco has a great deal on the Professional about once or twice a year. When I got mine there it was a $50 off coupon, off an already way cheaper price. My aunt has been waiting at her Costco for the coupon and it just happened this week and it was $75 off.

Now I don't know if by now these are lesser versions of the Professional machine compared with the year I got mine, to address that part of your question. I'll check hers out when I go there.

When I got my Professional KitchenAid, it only came in white, then later it came in black also, now my aunt tells me it comes in white, black, red, and "car paint" silver-grey.

My husband tells me there is another KitchenAid now with more power than the Professional, but I'm not up on it. Mine's been great in spite of really pushing my luck with it, though I have to confess I overburdened my first Pro KitchenAid, (fortunately in the last week of its warranty, so I got a new one, and in black).

KitchenAid does seem to be licensing out there name on all sorts of cheaper goods, hopefully they won't cheapen that Pro mixer too much. I'm still hanging on to my old Cuisinart made in France in the 1970s, I've tossed quite a number of other newer Cuisinart appliances since then.

[KYHeirloomer]

Not counting cosmetics, there are three models in the Pro line, and a whole bunch of others. Plus there are a slew of specially made models for specific stores, such as Williams Sonoma.

One of the Pro models is, indeed, a tilt-head version. So that's not really a test.

Of the commonly available ones, there is the Classic and the Artisan. The Classic is specifically built for box stores so it can be sold cheaply. It has plastic gears and parts, and will not hold up to serious work, like kneading dough.

The Artisan is the most commonly purchased of the KA models. It's a good, general purpose workhorse. But is not up to heavy duty work, like a lot of bread making. For that you need one of the Pro models.

I went with the Pro 600 when I bought mine, because I have an antipathy to tilt-head mixers, and wanted a bowl-lift mechanism instead. So far I have no kick.

KA and Hobart no longer have any relationship with each other. KA originally was Hobart's home appliance line, until they sold it off.

[phoenix 12]

I've been researching mixers for about a good month now. If do a google for reconditioned stand mixers you will find most of them are KAs. KA is now a subsidary of Whirlpool. I've settled on a Viking 7qt, reconditioned. There is a place in Detroit that sells reconditioned ones for $299. It is called McNichols Electric. Now don't everyone go get one till I get mine LOLOL

Mike

[stir it up]

[quote][One of the Pro models is, indeed, a tilt-head version. So that's not really a test.
/QUOTE]

I forgot that, that came later, sorry for the old info. When I first got mine and only the white was available in the Pro, all the Pros were drop bowl. So change that to if yours is pink, it's not a pro I think...

As I said I'm not up on the latest info, and my hubby said something about an ultra pro or a pro with even more power.

I find the Pro I have is adequate for bread, just adequate, but I sure don't feel like there's power and strength to spare.

Does anyone know what's available for home that might be a little more brawnier, as shel originally put it so well.

[realistic cook]

Hi Shel,
Go to the kitchenaid outlet store. I believe they are what you are looking for.
Also, everything pretty much isn't made the way it used to be. Plastic gears and other parts were introduced and they just don't hold up to the same amount of stress as steel ones used to. It makes for a lighter to handle product, but I miss the durability.
Hope that I was of some help.
Happy kitchen!
realistic cook

[shel]

Originally Posted by realistic cook

Hi Shel,
Go to the kitchenaid outlet store. I believe they are what you are looking for.

Thanks - that's not the place. The place i want deals only with older mixers, rebuilds and refurbishes them - been to thir site once, some time ago .... not anywhere near as pink and cutsely as the outlet store.

Shel

[Lana]

OK ya'll...I just got back from Target with my new KitchenAid mixer. I bought the UltraPower model. Better than classic but the Artisan Model.

And....I am very diappointed. The unit itself is very heavy and nice, but the attachments are garbage. I can just see them snapping in half the first time I try to make bread. They are like chrome painted plastic---extremely lightweight. I just know they won't hold up.

I am debating on taking it back, that is how disappointed I am. At the bakery I worked at in NC we had one and I thought I was buying the same one. But after reading the comments here, it must have been a PRO line because I now remember that it had a drop down bowl and not a tilt head.

Has anyone bought one lately? Are your dough hook and flat beater holding up? Maybe I should go ahead up grade to the Artisan one. I haven't seen the PRO ones for sale at stores. Where can you get it?

[stir it up]

There is some interesting dialog in customer reviews on Amazon, maybe this pinpoints the original problem Shel was asking about (check out the negative reviews, there's a detailed review by an engineer). Raises issues about a plastic gearbox, sounds like this might have been resolved, I'm not sure.

Amazon.com: Customer Reviews: KitchenAid? Professional 600 6-Quart Mixer Blue Steel

Lana, my aunt just bought a Pro at Costco a few weeks ago, the coupon was $100 off, not $75 like I thought. The Pro at Costco comes with full metal beaters, solid metal dough hook, says it's all metal construction.

Costco - KitchenAid 5-quart 475-watt Stand Mixer=

Lana, if you're going to bake bread, IMO you will need a strong motor and full metal beaters that the Pro lines offer.

Now Costco's pro is 475 watt, there are some Pros that are above that too. I understand the Pro600 as KYH mentioned is 575 watts.

My old Pros are only 350 watts, but solid. I did manage to ruin one of them years back after much abuse (hard dough at 8-10 with a dough hook), but in general, they've been standing up great, haven't had any other problems, haven't had a need to replace.

I would say if you're expecting it to take serious abuse, check with the manufacturer as to which specific model doesn't have that plastic gear case those negative reviews are referring to.

[phoenix 12]

7-qt. Reconditioned Viking Professional Mixer [VSM700] - $299.95 : Welcome To McNichols Electric Service

This Viking is a KA on steroids. I've had mine aprox. a month now. It's made three batches of bread dough with 3#s of flour, if I remember right. It went through a double batch of choc cookie dough like there was nuttin in the bowl. A recon for the price w/ the one year warrenty can't be beat. The one I got had some scratches on it that's why it was returned, or at least that's what I was told.

Mike

[ShoeMaker]

Originally Posted by shel

Have the newer Kitchenaid mixers been cheapened? Did they used to be brawnier and more durable? Are some current models better than others? What's the relationship with Kitchenaid and Hobart?
I heard there a place (southeastern US) that sells rebuilt older odels, and does major repairs and rebuilding of the earlier Kitchenaid machines. Can't find them on the 'net But I'm sure i saw a reference to them. Anyone know the place I'm describing?

Kind regards,

Shel

I honestly can't say - have had my 5qt at home for 16 years (was a wedding gift) and still performs perfectly. It's my favorite kitchen appliance (yes, even better than my MagicBullet ) I've been using a 6 qt at work (relatively new) and have had no durability issues, but today was my last day there - my new job (new restaurant starting from scratch) is ordering me a commercial 5 qt KA and a 20 qt Hobart (both new ) .... can't wait to get it up and running ("work" starts tomorrow, but restaurant needs a couple of weeks to get totally sorted before grand opening. I'm excited as all get out

- shoe