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10-23-2009, 07:08 AM
| | Registered User Culinary Experience: Cook At Home | | Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: W. KS
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| | Table top fryers Wife's b-day is comming up and I'm try'n to figure out what to get her. She doesn't like to cook that much, unless it's pretty easy. We like some fried things, fish-n-chips, mt. oysters, fries, onion rings, tater tots, etc.; but our fryer is a pain, small, and just sucks. I'd like one where the heating element goes into the oil and has maybe two baskets(don't have to be big). There is one that has "Bam's" name on it(Emeril) that sounds kinda good, but one basket...not the end of the world.
Would like easy to clean/dishwasher safe(cept for element) and somewhat attractive on the counter(not like those fry-daddy buckets)
Any help is appreciated. If I'm think'n wrong, let me know. Right now when we fry I do it in a wok and don't get much done. Plus it's a pain to monitor the temp.(lazy)
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10-23-2009, 07:50 AM
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| | IMO counter top fryers are a waste of space and money. Instead of frying in a wok try using a thick stock pot. It's as simple and maintenance free as frying gets.
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James Beard | 
10-23-2009, 08:04 AM
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| | None of them are acurate or any good. You are better off with a heavy pot full of of oil, a strainer basket and thermometer.
PS' The heating elements on most of them burn out in a matter of months.
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10-23-2009, 08:46 AM
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| | Good to know, Ed, that you've personally tested them all and found them wanting.
Except you skipped mine---which is accurate to within 1 degree at any setting, comes with one large and two small baskets, and does the job as well as any commercial fryer I've used. Been using mine more than two years, now, and the element has shown no sign of burning out.
Big Al: Problem is, you've got contradictory requirements. For example, many (most?) of them are as ugly as homemade sin, and are the antithesis of attractive on the counter.
Cleaning is always a chore. Even if the unit is microwaveable, you still have to empty it. If it were just a matter of pouring oil out of the fryer hopper that would be one thing. But keep in mind you straining it as well, so as to maximize use of the expensive oil. Time consuming, if nothing else. And awkward in the larger-sized units. And, of course, the heating element has to be hand-washed regardless.
That said, if you do a lot of frying, and have the room for one, they can be a great addition to the kitchen. I used a cast-iron kettle and thermometer for years, and my biggest problem wasn't actually frying, or even clean-up. It was maintaining the proper temperature. With a built-in thermostat, that's no longer a problem.
Based on my experience, I'd say the inclusion of multiple baskets is more a marketing ploy than a realistic aid. It sounds good to have two baskets, so you can fry different things at the same time. But, frankly, in the two+ years I've had my unit I have never used either of the two smaller baskets. So weigh that idea carefully.
Also consider operating cost. The larger units require a gallon or more of oil to operate safely. In theory, and depending on what you fry, you can get as many as five uses out of it. But I've never gotten more than three, even filtering it after each use.
So, as with anything else, there are pros and cons. But, overall, I glad I got mine, despite it's drawbacks. | 
10-23-2009, 08:55 AM
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| | KY, what did you get? | 
10-23-2009, 09:11 AM
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| | I can understand why Al had difficulty with the temperature in a wok but with a heavy stockpot it should be a non issue. While I haven't tried every counter top fryer those I have used really struggled to maintain a proper temperature once you began cooking. With a stock pot you simply bring the oil to temperature. If you are frying a lot or larger items you have the option of using more oil so the temperature will remain stable unlike a counter top fryer. If the temperature does drop you simply turn the heat up and the response is immediate unlike the electric elements in most home owner counter top fryers.
When I fry at home I check the oil to verify it is up to temperature. After that it's a fairly moot point. The oil is hot and you fry until what you are cooking is done. If the temperature drops you turn the heat back up.
The biggest pain with either method IMO is filtering and storing the used oil.
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James Beard | 
10-23-2009, 09:39 AM
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| | The ones I've tried have been a waste of money.
The one recurring fault is their poor recovery time.
I actually enjoy my wok, but others are right, a big pot and basket works great and can also be used for other things instead of just frying.
I too would be interested in which one KYH uses, if we could be deemed worthy enough to have that knowledge bestowed upon us. 
I would like to be able to recommend one to friends and family and at this time I can't.
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10-23-2009, 09:56 AM
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| | You can split the difference with a special pot called (wait for it) a "deep fryer." They range from fairly to very heavy and are usually fairly large, I'd guess 5 qts minimum. What makes them deep fryers is that they have a flange coming up from the back of the pan on which you may hang your frying basket (which comes with the pan).
A stove top set up like this is less expensive, and, in some ways, more convenient than a counter top fryer. It is even uglier, but perhaps easier to store.
I gotta tell you though that if I were buying one for my wife's birthday I'd throw in some jewelry, concert tickets, or something(s) else of the "good things come in small packages" variety, a think she'd think was "considerate and thoughtful;" and give to it (preferably them) to her immediately after telling her the fryer was a gag. That is, if I wanted to live to see my own birthday.
You're a better man than I am, Gunga Din.
BDL
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10-23-2009, 10:29 AM
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| | I'm with you on this one, BDL. My first reaction was, "why would somebody do that?" But he did ask.....
Duckfat, you're absolutely correct. Filtering and storing the used oil is the biggest bother, no matter what you use as the fryer.
Jim, unless you were overloading it, I don't understand your reference to recovery time. My unit actually seems to recover faster than when I was using a cast-iron kettle and thermometer. But it might be a volume of oil thing, as my fryer holds more oil than I used with the kettle.
In either case, when you add the food there is an immediate drop in oil temperature, which then recovers as the food fries.
My problem with a kettle is that it required constant heat adjustments. I don't have to worry about that with the fryer.
For those who asked, the unit I use is a FryPro2. It's made in China, and there have been some legal and other problems with the importer, so I don't know if it's even available anymore; at least not under that name.
Here's another part of the equation: How many of you really think a fry basket is necessary? When I was using a kettle, I merely use a spider to scoop up the finished food. And, truth to tell, our of habit I most often do the same with the fryer, kind of forgetting that that's why the basket is there. | 
10-23-2009, 10:39 AM
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| | I never bother with a basket.
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James Beard | 
10-23-2009, 10:40 AM
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| | Quote:
Originally Posted by boar_d_laze You can split the difference with a special pot called (wait for it) a "deep fryer." They range from fairly to very heavy and are usually fairly large, I'd guess 5 qts minimum. What makes them deep fryers is that they have a flange coming up from the back of the pan on which you may hang your frying basket (which comes with the pan).
A stove top set up like this is less expensive, and, in some ways, more convenient than a counter top fryer. It is even uglier, but perhaps easier to store.
I gotta tell you though that if I were buying one for my wife's birthday I'd throw in some jewelry, concert tickets, or something(s) else of the "good things come in small packages" variety, a think she'd think was "considerate and thoughtful;" and give to it (preferably them) to her immediately after telling her the fryer was a gag. That is, if I wanted to live to see my own birthday.
You're a better man than I am, Gunga Din.
BDL | Thanks alot ya turd.   
Is a counter top fryer not a deep fat fryer? | 
10-23-2009, 10:45 AM
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| | Also keep in mind that it's gotta be quick and easy to use. 2 kids in sports, me gone alot and need'n fast meals. It's easy to pull out the bucket w/oil and do some fries(frozen) and some fish sticks(frozen), or what ever else they want. Could bake, I know. Could microwave, too.
This idea is going down faster than the Titantic. | 
10-23-2009, 11:25 AM
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| | Size (as KYH alluded to), food temp and quantity all help the fryer work or fail.
Many countertop units are just too small for most families.
Obviously a fresh tempura prawn is going to allow the oil to recover faster than a frozen product.
Overloading is easy as you are trying to get enough in and out to feed your family in a short amount of time.
If you're eating while frying then not as much of a concern.
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10-23-2009, 12:26 PM
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| | Hang on just a little while longer. Ron Popeil is coming out with the last project of his career. He said he's been working on it for the last 4 years. He told me it used Olive Oil and was reusable. He said a lot of other things about it which I hate to admit I don't completely recall. But I have heard that it's coming up for a big push any day now. Should be interesting. I know he was very excited about it! | 
10-23-2009, 12:56 PM
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| | The Ronco Pocket Fryer?
Awesome!
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