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Old 06-16-2004, 02:50 PM
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Unhappy Keeping Cool in the Hot Summer months

I'm looking for ideas for keeping 'relatively' comfortable at work during the summer months. We have an 'ancient' exhaust system (just exhaust--no return). The Big Wigs are planning to upgrade soon, but we're not holding our breath. On a day over 90 degrees F, w/ high humidity, the overall kitchen temp can hit 120 F with areas by the grills hitting 180 F!! Forturatly, during these times we can be lax in our dress code--short sleeves and even shorts allowed. I've even taken 'ice blankets' from picnic coolers, cut them into strips, and rolled them into my scarfs. I keep at least 6 on hand for any shift--in a freezer near my station. They can last 30-45 minutes, and take about 90 minutes to refreeze.

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Old 06-17-2004, 05:02 AM
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I once worked in these conditions. Unfortunately, it takes a lot of money to fix. We used to put a big fan at the end of the line. It helped a little.
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Over the years I have acquired two portable swamp coolers. One of them goes on the end of our line for air circulation. They work fine till the humidity gets too high for the evaporative effect to be noticed. Then we just run them dry to get the air moved around. Then they make the neck collars that go in the freezer and stay frozen for much longer than a rolled up towel.
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Old 06-17-2004, 09:29 AM
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The neck collars are nice but can become a hassle at times. We mostly just lived with it. We would fill a giant bucket with a ton of ice, water, lemon, lime and orange slices and dipped into that all night. During momentary breaks in the action it's time for a quick run into the walk-in or freezer and just stand as the moisture wicks off you. And believe me I have worked in some seriously hot(bad) kitchens!
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Old 06-17-2004, 04:58 PM
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All are great ideas, and we've tryed most--and saddly, of course, we do live with it. One of my greatest trills is going into the large walk-in freezer (0 degrees F) and building an igloo out of cases of frozen chicken. I did even buy a huge warehouse fan (cheap at a garage sale) that helped somewhat, but -believe it or not- it had to go because the clean-up crew wouldn't move it to mop, and it was "messing up the server's hair"-- honestly, you can't make this stuff up!!
But seriously thanks for the thoughts, and keep them coming--I'm going to grab a sports drink, and head back to the igloo!!

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Old 06-17-2004, 08:26 PM
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I've tried them all: wet towels around the neck, half frozen sweat bands around the forehead (be careful, if it's too cold you will get brain freeze, trust me), fans blowing on me (don't like that one due to it blowing my my food also). I've even steamed up a freezer so badly I couldn't see 2 feet in front of my face!!! I also worked with a chef who kept a box of corn starch in the freezer (I hope I don't need to explain further). But, mostly I have found it best to just tough it out, drink plenty of water and dream about the ice cold beers awaiting me at the end of my day!!!!
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I'm going to grab a sports drink
If you do find yourself sweating a lot, rather than guzzling all the nasty stuff in a sports drink, you might want to take electrolyte supplements instead. Potassium, magnesium, calcium, and possibly sodium (if you're not getting enough salt in your diet). Supplements will also be a lot cheaper than all the sports drinks.
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Old 06-18-2004, 07:57 AM
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Default too much salt...

Alas, I've got too much salt in my diet--should cut back-gotta watch the pressure. The doctor has me on diaretics now. I drink at least 6 liters of water per shift, and was swelling up like Spongebob.
Doing better now though. I will look into the suppliments, but work supplies the 'gatorade' for free.
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If you watching your salt intake then definitely think about the supplement route. Gatorade is loaded with salt.
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Old 06-18-2004, 02:21 PM
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Hey, if you can't take the heat, then....
It's much better needing salt in this situation.
Loose clothing is best. I've heard alot of grill cooks down this way convert white fishing shirts in to cook shirts.
Sounds silly but heat is a huge distraction! Think cool, cool sox and shoes, better breathing, deep breaths in through the nose out through the mouth. Shallow breathing will increase persperation.
The beer idea is good, make something else your distraction.
Heading into the coolers and freezers, I don't think is a good idea.
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Old 06-18-2004, 06:16 PM
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Default I'm not giving up the igloo!!

I'm not giving up my igloo, and I'll defend it with every last piece of frozen chicken at my disposal! Seriously, as you may have read in other posts, trips into the big freeze are a GLORIOUS treat, looked forward to by everyoine one on the staff. As to the loose clothes-great idea, I'm already in short sleeves, shorts, and a dew rag. Thats why I prefer Winter--If its too cold, you can always put on another sweater. In Summer, there is only so much you can take off before the cops show up
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How about a trip to home depot for some ductwork and an exhaust fan? Maybe after making a hole in the wall to install it, the owners might get the idea that you need some ventilation.
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Problem is the hood won't work properly with the exhaust fan.
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The Big Cheese said they were at the bank this week to get the funding for the new exhaust system. Maybe soon--keep your fingers crossed, but still keep any clever ideas coming. Thanks.
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