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Old 04-14-2005, 08:09 AM
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Sandra Lee is dangerous. Not only to the health of those who actually practice her particular brand of heinous chemistry - but to future culinarians. Watching Mario Batali or Ina Garten won't hurt you in the kitchen. Sandra Lee teaches no worthwhile lessons with her boxed, canned and bagged concoctions and she's stunting the culinary growth of anyone who watches her show - unless they view in the recommended light of pure comedy.
Dangerous is right. A decorator whose husband is a big shot at FN and used his influence to buy his trophy wife a show with hopes she'll be the next Martha Stewart (yeah, right!) goes on the air with this bogus 70/30 formula for unhealthy, unappetizing, de-evolved crap and tries to pass it off as a cooking program.

It is truly offensive and irresponsible of FN to allow this to happen.

I take pleasure in snarking this show because it so deserves it.

I hope the AMA or viewer feedback shuts this useless abomination down soon!
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Old 04-14-2005, 09:55 AM
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I have never watched the Sandra Lee show. It sounds awful and I will avoid it at all costs! The companies that make all of that crap in a box, dough in a can, and pre-made chemical cakes must be giving the FN a ton of money. It all boils down to advertising and merchandising. More and more Americans are getting tired of store bought junk and are turning to natural wholesome foods. I think the mega-pre-fabricated food corporations are shaking in their boots worrying about their wallets shrinking. I would like to know why Food Network can't put Julia Child's old shows back on?
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Old 04-15-2005, 08:07 PM
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My favorite cooking show is still great chefs.
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Old 04-16-2005, 10:41 AM
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GREAT CHEFS! GREAT CHEFS! GREAT CHEFS! GREAT CHEFS!
arguably the BEST cooking series EVER. kuan hooks another one into
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Old 04-16-2005, 11:14 AM
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I used to love Great Chefs of the West! My first intro to two Hot Tamales...Hey - that's another good show that went the way of all quality programming on TVFN.
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Old 08-12-2005, 01:09 PM
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let me first begin by stating that I am no fan of hers. Her cooking usually is a side-bar in a news paper buried deep in the paper or reader's digest. Not supposedly a 30 min show. I happened to see once something with swedish meatballs (had eaten them earlier in the day at IKEA) so sat around to watch it. Holy c*%^! She took a packet of pre-made Swedish meatballs, browned them, scraped the brown bits off with a butter / wine type mixture and that was her dish.

anyway, but my point is that someone like her is of help - no, I am not kidding. as much as it pains me to say that - she does have an important place.

An example would be my sister. She started to assemble / *cook* in Sandra Lee's mold (around 12 yrs of age). I used to kid her but my mom used to insist that its one of the ways to begin. I didn't believer her but just recently, I found her trying to separate egg whites and make a cream by herself. Yes she began using store bought stuff but she graduated to this.

Also, where professional cooking is just picking up its share of the spot light, home cooking is consistently going down. People get nice KA mixers for their wedding gifts and it stays like a table display on their counters. Its amazing how many people would have actually pulled out their mixers after they could have seen her show.

Personally, I would not see her show. But as far as eye-candy, making money, widening base and things like that go, foodtv obviously is doing the right thing bringing her in. It might have been different had Martha not made her mess. But call it dumbing down, Stepford-wife syndrome, bastardization... its going to be there for the long haul.

By the way, I read someone mention, no more Sara Moulton on foodtv. Is that true?
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Old 08-12-2005, 02:57 PM
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anyway, but my point is that someone like her is of help - no, I am not kidding. as much as it pains me to say that - she does have an important place. An example would be my sister. She started to assemble / *cook* in Sandra Lee's mold (around 12 yrs of age). I used to kid her but my mom used to insist that its one of the ways to begin. I didn't believer her but just recently, I found her trying to separate egg whites and make a cream by herself. Yes she began using store bought stuff but she graduated to this.
If a fledgling cook tries one of Sandy's recipes, tastes it and says, "Bleah, that's not how that's supposed to taste," I'm all for experimentation. After all, people did it in the 60's with LSD so a little cake mix seems tame by comparison. Let me say that I'm glad your sister has segued into real cooking and abandoned the Sandy Way. Truth be told, I also began with cake mixes but made my first "scratch" cake at 14 and never looked back.

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Also, where professional cooking is just picking up its share of the spot light, home cooking is consistently going down. People get nice KA mixers for their wedding gifts and it stays like a table display on their counters. Its amazing how many people would have actually pulled out their mixers after they could have seen her show.
I have to disagree with you here because I don't think Sandra Lee will "inspire" anyone to whip out a KA. Maybe Ina Garten, Martha Stewart, Sara Moulton, etc. influence people to use the better quality equipment but I can't say that Sandra Lee with her bagged angel food cake and garbage icing plants any kind of "seed" in an adult. The end result of SL's concoctions is just not enticing enough for anyone to go to the trouble of hauling out a KA.

Home cooking is experiencing a resurgence in many ways. Many factors have contributed to this. People are realizing that their families are worth a few minutes an evening to put healthy food on the table. All these diseases that pop up from obesity and bad food are starting to register with the American public (thank GOD). People are also starting to realize that packaged food and most restaurant food take "control" right out of the diner's hands. You can't stop someone from pouring salt into your food at a restaurant and you can't stop someone from adding polypseudosomethingorother into the box mix you're about to buy. The remedy is simple - make it yourself. Dinners during the week can be as simple as transmogrified leftovers, sandwiches, mock "pizzas" on pita breads using your own ingredients or anything wrapped in a whole wheat tortilla. Save the fancy stuff for the weekends (and make extra for during the week!). Quick and easy stuff is available without dumping out boxes and bags of God knows what. Rachel Ray is a good teacher when it comes to this stuff.

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Personally, I would not see her show. But as far as eye-candy, making money, widening base and things like that go, foodtv obviously is doing the right thing bringing her in. It might have been different had Martha not made her mess. But call it dumbing down, Stepford-wife syndrome, bastardization... its going to be there for the long haul. By the way, I read someone mention, no more Sara Moulton on foodtv. Is that true?
And how funny...Until TVFN comes to its senses and nukes this jerk, I wouldn't miss the show. Reviewing these shows has become an exercise for me and always makes me appreciate the "real" cooking that goes on in my home. I appreciate all the more my heritage having two parents who cook, a brother who cooks; and being married to a corporate chef (I try to do most of the cooking because he does it all week).

Your sister's cooking skills will only increase with time, especially if she tries to emulate someone worth watching or gets a couple of books with cuisine she really aspires to prepare. (I wanted to insert an applause smiley - but pickins is slim on this site...) I don't know about anyone else, but I get really revved up around September, thinking of Fall menus, holiday menus, etc. And the BAKING! (Is my heart actually racing?..sheesh.)

I heard Sara Moulton will no longer be on TVFN but you must admit, they burnt her out. If anyone remembers the Two Hot Tamales, TVFN did the same thing to them as well as David Rosengarten. All quality people who will be missed and HOPEFULLY not replaced by fluff garbage like Sandra Lee.
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Old 08-12-2005, 03:19 PM
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yeah my sister's graduated from those stuff long back.

she's playing with a lot of things and trying to make them from scratch.

cookies, brownies, you name it.

i m trying to get her to get on this site, especially the baking forum where she might be able to get good help and increase her knowledge.
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Please recommend the following books to your sister. They can probably be purchased (used) at http://www.half.com for a reasonable price.

The Cake Bible by Rose Levy Beranbaum
RLB's instructions can be verbose but this is helpful to a new baker. After a few times preparing some of the recipes, you learn to "skim" the directions and it doesn't take near as long . Tell your sister to try the Chocolate Oblivion Truffle Torte (but make sure she's sitting next to someone she reeeeeally likes because orgies have been known to spontaneously erupt near this cake).

The Pie & Pastry Bible by Rose Levy Beranbaum
This was a book that came out after TCB and it's just as informative about pies and pastry. My fave pie crust recipe is from this book - it's a Cheddar Cheese crust I use for any apple dessert - pie, slump, dumplings. Daughter likes "pie crust cookies" made from this dough and topped with turbinado sugar. Made them once at T-Giving because I had excess dough, now we can't have a T-Giving without them.

Baking With Julia Compilation
This book is incredible if your sister never makes anything but the Nancy Silverton Brioche dough (and all the goodies that can come from that). But I'm sure she won't stop there!

Professional Pastry Chef by Bo Friberg
This has large scale recipes (DH uses it at work) and lots of good information. (Only if she can get it cheap - it weighs a ton and is a professional book.)

How To Bake by Nick Malgeri
I have a particular fondness for this book because Nick Malgeri is the Dean of Pastry at the school I attended, Peter Kump (now called something else). I make hundreds of the gingerbread cookies and bring them to work at Christmas time. (I do it over a weekend - Saturday to bake - Sunday to decorate.) The trick with the gingerbreads is not to roll them too thin in an attempt to get the most cookies out of the dough. When they're left "thickish" they're chewy and rich.

Bread Alone by Daniel Leader
This is a "love letter" to artisinal bread baking. The breads are INCREDIBLE, if not simple to make. A nice weekend project. You get great bread and the house smells like love.

Bernard Clayton's New Complete Book of Breads
Made LOTS of these recipes. My fave is Royal Hibernian Brown Loaf (it's a dark Irish soda bread).

Tell your sister happy baking!
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Sandra Lee is the antichrist of televised American cooking and futher proof that many of our countrymen will eat their own feces as long as it's served in a paper box.
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Sandra Lee is the antichrist of televised American cooking and futher proof that many of our countrymen will eat their own feces as long as it's served in a paper box.

Bwahhhh! I want to see this on a billboard!
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Seeing as there seems to be renewed interest in this thread, I thought I'd share my most recent review of her show with you...

Spicy Asian Confusion

I think Shamdra sometimes forgets that her 30 minutes of glory on the air each Saturday are intended as an “instructional cooking show.” She consistently blows opportunities to teach the viewer something of value. Don’t worry – I picked up the slack.

Scallion Crab Cakes
Cat Food Crab makes a comeback! The “canned” crab available where you find tuna in the supermarket is the lowest grade crabmeat. Remember, purchase only refrigerated crabmeat from your local fish monger which may be packaged with their store name; OR national brands Phillips or Blue Star crabmeat. Phillips and Blue Star are available in jumbo lump ($$$$$) or claw meat ($$). I use either Phillips or Blue Star in my prized Italian Christmas Eve Seafood Dinner and highly recommend both brands. Teach something worthwhile – like where to operate “on the cheap” and where to go for the higher end product. Give the “tuna aisle” crab to your cat – she’s about the only one who would thank you for it.

Big on the use of tortillas for Asian Food. Scallion pancakes have absolutely NOTHING to do with the glorified tortilla chips in this ep. Scallion pancakes are wonderfully chewy, oily, savory – bad-for-you-but-who-cares kind of food. They are NOT difficult to make and there are zillions of recipes available by google search. Shamdra implies this is a “semi-homemade version” of scallion pancakes but I think she fails to realize that the SH version should at least ATTEMPT to resemble the original version of a dish.

Coconut Shrimp
She’s at it again…using ¼ cup of this and ½ cup of that. Cans opened with product remaining. At least in this ep, she finished the beef broth. Teach something worthwhile – Like using a good quality boxed stock with a resealable closure instead of leaving behind a trail of half used cans of this-and-that. Heck, that leftover stock may just inspire a pan sauce or soup later in the week.

Spicy Beef
The combination of sweet + hot is a classic one. It’s her execution that leaves a bad taste in one’s mouth. Teach something worthwhile – like how to “eyeball” where appropriate. Instead of measuring out ½ a cup of marmalade, look at the jar – if it’s an 8 ounce jar, USE HALF. Why dirty a measuring cup for that? And she didn’t even fill the measure, just blobbed a spoon of the marmalade into the ½ cup and dumped it in the pan. Cooking is an art, baking is a science. Precise measuring is not always necessary while cooking. What many “survival” cooks object to is cleanup, so let’s take the opportunity to teach people to save themselves some sink time.

BTW: The chiles used in this recipe are sold dried in the produce section under the name “Chiles Japonese” and not “little baby chiles.”

How long is this woman on the air? She still doesn’t know how to get a cutting board to quit migrating across her work surface? Teach something worthwhile - Dampen a paper towel and place under the cutting board for a stable work surface. This works with both poly boards and wooden boards.

When she “floured” the beef, I had to replay that clip about 3x until it sank in. The intention is to coat the beef with either corn starch or flour, then shake off as much of the excess as possible as indicated in this quote from the recipe: “Season flank steak strips with salt and pepper, then toss with cornstarch. Shake off excess.” Did anyone else bust a gut when she put the corn starch in the strainer with the beef? Teach something worthwhile – The proper way to do this is to toss beef in a bowl corn starch THEN move the beef to the strainer and shake off excess over the same bowl.

No thought seemed to go into the timing of her prep. She would handle the component of one dish, then jump to another. Any novice cook would be confused. (Seasoned cooks only laugh.)

The stupid noodles. Implying they would make a good “Asian take on a funnel cake.” Launch your assault one cuisine at a time, Sandy. Leave the Penn Dutch alone for this week.

Grilled Pineapple
Just when you thought Shamdra was going to teach the viewer a worthwhile skill, fluff is snatched from the jaws of education. WT ever loving F was that about? The whole setup with the cored pineapple elevated Semi-Homemade from sitcom to slapstick. Sandra goes through the motions of getting a knife from her terribly neglected collection. “Now let’s see, I have this big one, a serrated knife and a paring knife.” (BTW, “this big one” is also referred to as a Kullenschliff edged veggie cleaver. You’re welcome.) Then POOF! She advises the viewer to use canned pineapple and unceremoniously dumps the perfect pineapple shell into the garbage! Teach something worthwhile – (I got a few here) – like the difference between knives and how each has a job; perhaps to use the pineapple shell as a GARNISH (attention to detail, Sandy) – maybe how canned pineapple is actually cooked and differs from fresh pineapple. Did you know that you can’t use raw pineapple in Gelatin desserts? There is an enzyme in fresh pineapple, the bromelaine enzyme, that prevents gelatin from setting up. (No charge for that one.)

Plating should be done in odd numbers – using even numbers (like Sandra’s pineapple ice cream dessert) is called “static” presentation and is not nearly as pleasing to the eye. Perhaps 3 slices of the pineapple with 2 scoops of the ice cream would be passable – but refrain from presenting plated food that can be counted in 2’s.

In every ep of Semi-Homemade, there can be found at least one nugget of truth. While assembling her serving display, Sandra repeats the line I’m sure she uttered upon meeting The Wallet: “My ship has come in!” While being married to millionaire has secured Shamdra’s place in history as the worst hack on TV – it’s proof positive that money is certainly the root of this particular evil.
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I saw that episode too. The "scallion pancakes" made no sense to me, and the beef looked like it would be gooky, sticky rubberbands.
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...the beef looked like it would be gooky, sticky rubberbands.
Bwaaahhh! What a GREAT description! I loved when she said, "This is sticking just a little bit.." and I remember thinking "the paper towel probably tastes better than the food."
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