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12-05-2005, 01:42 PM
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| | I have some cacao seed's now what? Hola everyone
I have just arrived back in snowy Canada, from sunny Mexico, and I brought back a big bag of cacao seed's, with the Idea of making homemade chocolaty treat's to win the harts, of the girls that live down the hall. Now before I go making to much of a mess in my kitchen, I would just like to see if anyone out there, has used raw cacao before, and If they can point me in the right direction.
James
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12-05-2005, 02:01 PM
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| | I saw cacao nibs used with foie gras on Chefs of Napa Valley on PBS. Not quite the same as a seed as it has been processed some as I recall. Hiro Sone's dish. Looked impressive and delicious http://www.chefsofnapavalley.com/rec...cipe.cfm?id=32 is the recipe.
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12-05-2005, 02:40 PM
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| | Cocoa seeds have to be "processed" first. What they do at the plantaions is to split open the pods, scrape out the seeds, heap them in a pile and cover them with bannana leaves. This will start to ferment, which is how the true chocoalte flavour is developed, this usually takes 10 -14 days. The beans should be a purplish/brown, then they are separted from the vegetation, and spread out in the sun to dry. This is how the majority of the cocoa beans come to the chocolate factories. If the beans are unproccessed they'll probably taste bitter with very little chocolate flavour. | 
12-05-2005, 05:27 PM
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| | purplish brown Yes these are purplish brown, and they taste like bitter bakers chocolate.
I gather that I should roast them like nuts first in the oven, then peal them to expose the nib, and I assume that I should mash them into a paste first (pestle and mortar is probably best but I don't have one any more...Maybe a food processor would do the trick)..but Before I go playing mad scientist I was hoping someone out there may have tried using them before....thanks
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12-05-2005, 05:40 PM
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| | Here's a pic of cocoa nibs
Do your seeds look like this? If they do, maybe they've already been processed?
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12-05-2005, 05:58 PM
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| | If I brake them open yes... but they are still in there thin shell..I can brake them open with ease..should I roast them first, or after I shell them?
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12-05-2005, 07:03 PM
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| | I don't know. | 
12-08-2005, 08:15 AM
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| | I'd think you need an awful lot of that stuff -- and some heavy-duty machinery -- to turn it into chocolate as we know it. Not sure how one would go about it. But I do know that finely chopped cocoa nibs are a great addition to cakes and cookies.And I love the idea of using them in a sauce for a savory dish, as phatch noted.
Can't help any more, though. So I'm going to put a copy of this where our pastry chefs are more likely to see it and (I hope) give some good answers.
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