Food & Cooking Questions and Discussion Got a cooking question or something you want to discuss about food and cooking? This is the forum for you. Talk about anything related to food & cooking.


Reply
 
Thread Tools
  #1  
Old 02-10-2006, 01:22 PM
Andrew Hope Offline
Registered User
Culinary Experience: Line Cook
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: B.C, Canada
Posts: 56
Default burgers

I’m wondering if any of you, still believe in having a burger on the menu as long as it is top of the line house made product... I personally love a burger and a lot good places have them and well have the best... Personally I don't believe in stretching the beef by adding carbs such bread crumbs, oatmeal etc. When I made a burger it's basic lean ground beef minced onions, oregano and salt and pepper yummy
__________________
Just another young apprentice eager to develop into the master.
Reply With Quote


  #2  
Old 02-10-2006, 01:52 PM
blueschef's Avatar
blueschef Offline
Registered User
Culinary Experience: Professional Chef
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Posts: 168
Default Are you kidding!

Burgers are AWESOME! Yes it should be great meat with the correct amount of fat, cooked proper (grilled or on a griddle or even blackened), Some cool roll, some basic toppings and some fun ones.
"I like mine with lettuce and tomato......"
Sorry flashback
I would find it hard to beleive that you will find any chefs that do not like burgers!
There are also Turkey Burgers, Chicken Burgers, Lamb Burgers, Buffalo Burgers.....

Tom
__________________
"Laissez Le Bon Temps Roule"
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 02-10-2006, 03:55 PM
Andrew Hope Offline
Registered User
Culinary Experience: Line Cook
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: B.C, Canada
Posts: 56
Default

Cool, I just thought a lot of experienced chefs would think if you want a burger go to a greasy spoon. I have seen a lot of well presented burgers, mostly at high end pubs (very common theme in Canada are pubs at least around here) I'm working at a nice pub and a retirement home owned by the same company two different kitchens same building, switch over so I get to learn new stuff. Only first years apprentice (school in march yay) so I will see where my ambitions lead me. I want to own a casually sophisticated place with an upscale bar some day so I'm going to need to evenly start working in a place like that.
__________________
Just another young apprentice eager to develop into the master.
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 02-10-2006, 04:44 PM
Mikeb's Avatar
Mikeb Offline
Registered User
Culinary Experience: Professional Chef
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Posts: 318
Default

I love a good burger. Even some of the French chefs I've worked for enjoy them (not so much the fast food kind but the homemade kind). For the mix I like it pretty basic, beef/lamb, onions, garlic, Worchestershire sauce and Tabasco sauce, an egg to bind. For toppings I enjoy cheddar (I usually use 3 year old cheddar from Quebec), tomato, red onion, a crisp leaf of lettuce, mustard and ketchup. Bacon is optional, not a huge fan of barbecue sauce on burgers though. Put all that on a fresh bun grilled with butter, soo good. I don't mind other toppings either, salsa, guacamole, lots of interesting things you can do. Beer to wash it down (I love wine, but with some things nothing beats a cold beer).
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 02-10-2006, 05:02 PM
gonefishin's Avatar
gonefishin Offline
Registered User
Culinary Experience: At home cook
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Joliet, Ill.
Posts: 420
Default

At home...I really like just a normal sized regular ol' burger.

But my favorite burger to date is from Goose Island Pub, in Chicago. They have a Stilton burger.

(from their menu)
STILTON BURGER
Our brewer’s favorite — half pound of
black pepper crusted burger, grilled
and topped with roasted garlic cloves,
Stilton cheese and Düsseldorf mustard
on a pumpernickel roll. . . . . . . . . $9.50
Oatmeal Stout is a great complement with the Stilton Burger.


Add some of their homemade chips and a fresh brewed beer...

I gotta make that trip up north again

dan
__________________
I'm not a chef!

So please take any advice I give with a grain of salt (it'll taste better)
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 02-11-2006, 09:14 AM
shroomgirl's Avatar
shroomgirl Offline
ChefTalk Moderator
Culinary Experience: Professional Caterer
 
Join Date: Aug 2000
Location: St. Louis Mo
Posts: 5,661
Default

several medium high end restaurants (white linen actually) have burgers on their menus....9+-$12. One has chopped lettuce/tomato with bluechesse dressing on it....big juicy burger. Hand cut FF!!!!

Daniel Bouloud has one a DBK....$40+ with foie, shortribs in the middle.

Good food is just that, doesn't matter if it's a tamale or hot dog or searred foie gras.....a good burger sometimes makes a dining experience wonderful. My 75 year old father can be ornery when we dine out, if there's a burger on a high end menu then he's happy thus the rest of the table is happy and we're not having to eat at some mediocre chain.
__________________
cooking with all your senses.....
http://www.chanterellecatering.net
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 02-11-2006, 11:17 AM
Pete's Avatar
Pete Offline
ChefTalk Moderator
Culinary Experience: Professional Chef
 
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Fond du Lac, WI
Posts: 3,001
Default

Most of the high end places I have worked at offer a burger at lunch but not at dinner. Of course, if a guest really wanted a burger, at dinner, we would never say no.
__________________
From Man's sweat and God's love, beer came into the World-Saint Arnoldus
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 02-11-2006, 11:39 AM
kuan's Avatar
kuan Offline
ChefTalk Moderator
Culinary Experience: Retired Chef
 
Join Date: Jun 2001
Location: Minnesota
Posts: 4,136
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Pete
Of course, if a guest really wanted a burger, at dinner, we would never say no.
No you wouldn't say no, you'd say $16.95.
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 02-11-2006, 12:24 PM
karen90's Avatar
karen90 Offline
Registered User
Culinary Experience: At home cook
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Clinton, Ct
Posts: 18
Default yuuuum

Oooohhhh maann....hamburgers are probably one of my favorite foods. I looove making them....and i like the sweet and spicy thing...so i mix brown sugar with it and stuff...whatever i'm in the mood for. mMMMmmmmm can't beat them.
__________________
"This magic moment, while your lips are close to mine, Will last forever, Forever till the end of time"



"Dream as if you'll live f o r e v e r, Live as if you'll die today"
-James Dean



and....

"Dream as if you'll eat f o r e v e r, Eat as if you'll die today"=D=D


Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 02-11-2006, 02:29 PM
GoutezleBonVie Offline
Registered User
Culinary Experience: Professional Chef
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Posts: 7
Default

I work in a french bistro, I sell great burgers, i also have bar sliders, Angus beef, carmelized onions, american cheese, Chipolte Roquefort mayo, And some pommes Frites, awesome.
Patrick
Reply With Quote
  #11  
Old 02-12-2006, 08:27 AM
blueschef's Avatar
blueschef Offline
Registered User
Culinary Experience: Professional Chef
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Posts: 168
Default

Ok two cool burgers:
We did a Burger topped with JUMBO LUMP and Port Salute that was out of this world. Did that one about 20 years ago. I have not done them in a restaraunt sence but when I want to do something really fun at home for friends I make them, people go nuts, some time when you are feeling oppoulent try it it really is good. I warm the crab in whole butter and S&P first amd do not skimp on the crab or cheese!
My Mom makes one of the best comfort foods, to me, She puts raw burgers in a pan, topps them with a slice of raw onion adds canned tomato soup and velvita cheese and cooks them low and slow for a long time. eat them with rice and DO NOT drain off any grease, just mix the sauce and grease right into the rice, I am telling you..............Heaven! She calls them Bachelor Burgers, and we have been eating them all our lives.
Tom
__________________
"Laissez Le Bon Temps Roule"
Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old 02-12-2006, 05:02 PM
BigBadButcher's Avatar
BigBadButcher Offline
Registered User
Culinary Experience: Butcher
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Silver Lake, Michigan
Posts: 19
Default Good Burgers

I love burgers! Sometimes there's just nothing like a big 'ol cheeseburger on the grill. I prefer to use ground round (86%-92% lean) for my hamburgers. That way you have enough fat to give it excellent flavor, yet not to much so you have less shrinkage and it's not greasy. MMMM.... I think I know what I'm going to have for dinner tonight...
Reply With Quote
  #13  
Old 02-12-2006, 05:15 PM
Ma Facon's Avatar
Ma Facon Offline
Registered User
Culinary Experience: Professional Chef
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Mn. From Wisconsin
Posts: 348
Default

Thanx alot, I was going to have New York strips on the grille, Now it is burgers instead and NY's tommorrow.



I can't read these forums until after dinner from now on.
__________________
http://www.frappr.com/chefsunited
One time a guy pulled a knife on me. I could tell it wasn't a professional job; it had butter on it.- Rodney Dangerfield -



'We're ALL amateurs; It's just that some of us are more professional about it than others'. - George Carlin
Reply With Quote
  #14  
Old 02-19-2006, 08:58 AM
Suzanne's Avatar
Suzanne Offline
ChefTalk Moderator
Culinary Experience: Professional Chef
 
Join Date: May 2001
Location: New York, NY
Posts: 3,748
Default

A good restaurant should be able to do a good burger. Doesn't have to be the dbBurger from Chef Daniel Boulud (stuffed with short ribs and foie gras, topped with truffles for extra $$ ), but here in NYC (especially lower Manhattan, where I live) some excellent places make great burgers: Blue Smoke (very high-end barbecue) and Union Square Café (fabulous tuna burger!), both owned by Danny Meyer, one of the best restaurateurs in the city; City Hall, high-end grill; Peter Luger in Brooklyn, considered by many to be THE BEST steakhouse in the city (available at lunch only, though); Landmarc, an all-around good place; and before it closed recently, Le Zinc, run by the same folks as the 4-star Chanterelle.

I'd actually prefer having a burger at a top restaurant than at a middling one, because I'd expect the meat to be better quality.
__________________
Co-Moderator, Cooking Questions
"Notorious stickler" -- The New York Times, January 4, 2004
Reply With Quote
  #15  
Old 02-19-2006, 10:45 AM
Mannlicher's Avatar
Mannlicher Offline
Registered User
Culinary Experience: Owner/Operator
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Gainesville Florida
Posts: 190
Default

I love a good burger myself. What I do NOT love, is when the restaurant gets overly fancy, presenting an affectation, not a burger. All that is needed is good quality beef with the right fat/lean ratio, freshly ground, and seasoned moderately. Bun, condiments, pickle and beverage choice can vary, but if the basics are not right, its not a 'burger'.
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks


Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are Off

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Anyone knows any grass-fed burgers? Noora Food & Cooking Questions and Discussion 0 03-31-2008 04:32 AM
MY burgers are balling! Bon Vivant Food & Cooking Questions and Discussion 12 02-19-2006 08:43 AM
What goes with burgers? Heidi Recipes 7 02-12-2006 08:47 AM
Best Burgers? or Most expensive? phatch Restaurant Dining Experiences 5 01-18-2003 05:43 PM
Veggie Burgers JeniDaChef Food & Cooking Questions and Discussion 20 09-02-2001 04:37 PM