non dairy

meekoct · #1 09-11-2006, 09:54 PM

Can you make non dairy creamer into whipped topping?

kuan · #2 09-11-2006, 10:01 PM

Don't know, but you can buy non dairy topping which you whip yourself.

siduri · #3 09-12-2006, 01:00 AM

whether you can or not, it sounds gross. Non dairy creamer tastes like white paint to color your coffee, how would it taste on its own??? I know people develop a taste for it, because of necessity, i suppose, but seems like it's neither tasty nor healthy

meekoct · #4 09-12-2006, 07:43 AM

It sounds gross but there are people who are vegans, and they would like whip topping too. I know that there is soy whip, but that can get costly.

I was told that you can whip up "Rich's" coffee rich into a topping.

Tried it with a non "name" brand ....did not work. Going to try the Rich's next.

kuan · #5 09-12-2006, 08:11 AM

Seriously, you can buy the stuff you whip yourself. You don't have to experiment. I feel like the duck in the AFLAC commercial.

siduri · #6 09-12-2006, 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by meekoct

It sounds gross but there are people who are vegans, and they would like whip topping too. .

I just can't understand why someone would want to eat something that tastes horrible and is full of bad chemicals. It makes veganism sound very unhealthy

BigDog · #7 09-12-2006, 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by siduri

I just can't understand why someone would want to eat something that tastes horrible and is full of bad chemicals. It makes veganism sound very unhealthy

Can Soy milk be whipped?

meekoct · #8 09-12-2006, 12:24 PM

If you know of this product..... do tell the suspense is killing me!

As for the soy milk... tried that.

What are the chemicals that are being referred to in non dairy?

the whipping agent would be PALM KERNEL OIL, AND COCONUT OIL

What is chemical about that?

Suzanne · #9 09-12-2006, 01:57 PM

Web site of Rich's

Web site of Rich's whipped toppings

Ingredient list of Original Liquid Coffee-Mate:

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WATER, CORN SYRUP SOLIDS, PARTIALLY HYDROGENATED SOYBEAN AND/OR COTTONSEED OIL, AND LESS THAN 2% OF SODIUM CASEINATE (A MILK DERIVATIVE)**, DIPOTASSIUM PHOSPHATE, MONO- AND DIGLYCERIDES, POLYSORBATE 60, SODIUM STEAROYL LACTYLATE, ARTIFICIAL FLAVOR, CARRAGEENAN, BETA- CAROTENE COLOR.

The prevailing ethos among some of us is: if you choose to limit yourself to certain categories of food, you should stay within those categories and not look for artificially-concocted substitutes that mimic foods you choose not to eat. Especially if you limit yourself for philosophical reasons of cleanliness, purity, etc.

meekoct · #10 09-12-2006, 08:13 PM

Tell That to my customers. Thanks for the website. The ingredients do not look like it would work. I guess I will just " let them eat cake"!

Mezzaluna · #11 09-12-2006, 08:17 PM

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I just can't understand why someone would want to eat something that tastes horrible and is full of bad chemicals.

People who keep kosher and want to serve a dairy-like dessert after a meat meal must use a non-dairy product.

phoebe · #12 09-12-2006, 08:30 PM

meekot,
I know you said using soy milk would be costly, but could you do something with a sweetened, soft tofu? It's not something I've ever tried

and you wouldn't get any pretty peaks, but might it work as a topping?

siduri · #13 09-13-2006, 01:21 AM

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Originally Posted by meekoct

What are the chemicals that are being referred to in non dairy?

the whipping agent would be PALM KERNEL OIL, AND COCONUT OIL

What is chemical about that?

I was talking about coffeemate, the original topic of the thread, but also lots of soy-based products do have chemicals to make them palatable as copies of milk-based products and are highly processed. Eat soybeans, they're fine, or tofu, but make beans seem like milk? you really have to do alot to them industrially. Palm oil, anyway, is one of the big baddies as far as i ever read, does bad things to cholesterol, much worse than butter. Good for making soap, not for eating.

Mezzaluna, yes, i can understand about kosher rules, but anyway, why not make a dairy meal in the first place, - it's not necessary to eat meat at every meal is it? Certainly better than trying to whip coffemate. Or use otehr kinds of deserts (of which there are thousands) for meat-based meals.

Mezzaluna · #14 09-13-2006, 08:31 AM

Siduri, for some holidays dairy dishes are traditional- on Shavuot (celebrate giving of the 10 Commandments at Mt. Sinai) you can look forward to cheese blintzes, fish and other light dairy dishes. Cheese dishes are also served at Chanukah. But some holidays traditionally call for heartier meat dishes. At Rosh Hashanah- the new year- Eastern European tradition calls for brisket, chicken or other poultry (goose or turkey). On the Sabbath a slow-cooked concoction called Cholent (usually meat and beans, etc.) is sometime served.

For those of us who have family or regional traditions to satisfy for some holidays (to say nothing of our mothers-in-law!), serving a dairy meal is out of the question.

siduri · #15 09-13-2006, 12:15 PM

Ah, mezzaluna, i see. I was assuming you were referring to everyday kosher cuisine. Still, I'd imagine that particularly on the holidays, if you're having traditional main courses, there would be traditional desserts to go with them. (Which wouldn;t include fake-o milk products.) But even as we speak, my mouth is watering for those cheese blintzes.