Go To ChefTalk.com
    Cooking ArticlesCookbook ReviewsCooking ForumsRecipesCooking Glossary  

Welcome to the ChefTalk Cooking Forums forums.

You are currently viewing our boards as a guest which gives you limited access to view most discussions and access our other features. By joining our free community you will have access to post topics, communicate privately with other members (PM), respond to polls, upload content and access many other special features. Registration is fast, simple and absolutely free so please, join our community today!

If you have any problems with the registration process or your account login, please contact contact us.

Go Back   ChefTalk Cooking Forums > Food and Cooking Forums > Food & Cooking Questions and Discussion
Register Blogs Photo Gallery FAQ Members List Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read

Food & Cooking Questions and Discussion Got a cooking question or something you want to discuss about food and cooking? This is the forum for you. Talk about anything related to food & cooking.

Reply
 
Thread Tools
  #1  
Old 11-24-2006, 10:23 PM
Registered User
Culinary Experience: Professional Chef
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: since 16 years in Moscow,Russia
Posts: 91
HotChef is on a distinguished road
Default shrimp trawling is a GIGANTIC waste

up to 20 kgr of other fish are being killed /thrown away to get
ONLY 1 kgr of SHRIMPS.
we chefs can do our small part to elliminate part of it. buy commercially bred shrimps!
__________________
good food, one of the few pleasures left to mankind...
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Sponsored links
  #2  
Old 11-25-2006, 12:37 AM
felixe the dog's Avatar
Registered User
Culinary Experience: Professional Pastry Chef
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: A long way from home!
Posts: 187
felixe the dog is on a distinguished road
Thumbs down Is this real or rubbish?

Quote:
Originally Posted by HotChef View Post
up to 20 kgr of other fish are being killed /thrown away to get
ONLY 1 kgr of SHRIMPS.
Bollocks!! Hot Chef where did you get this information? Quote your source or remove such an outrageous statement.
__________________
Leading the global ban on cup and spoon measurements in recipes!
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 11-25-2006, 05:04 AM
Registered User
Culinary Experience: Professional Chef
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: since 16 years in Moscow,Russia
Posts: 91
HotChef is on a distinguished road
Default shrimp trawling...

..it is being shown on bbc world the last 3 weeks ( since we have cable..)
and when it is aired the next time i will watch it and also find out who posted it. it is the world food organisation but i will make double sure!
i do not suck this out of my fingers or quote the 'beef breeders association'....
__________________
good food, one of the few pleasures left to mankind...
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 11-25-2006, 05:11 AM
cakerookie's Avatar
Registered User
Culinary Experience: Line Cook
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: The Carolinas
Posts: 1,203
cakerookie is on a distinguished road
Default

Kind of like the senseless killing of sharks to get their fins for shark fin soup its unreal! But with commerical fishing, especially in nets there are going to be some unwanted creatures that get caught up in the net. I honestly do not believe that these trawlers are intentionally killing these animals they are just trying to make a living and sometimes thats the price you pay when your in the wrong place at the wrong time. Now granted the animals do not know that. There are two sides to this story and an arguement could be made for both.

Rgds Rook
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 11-25-2006, 07:27 AM
Registered User
Culinary Experience: Professional Chef
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: since 16 years in Moscow,Russia
Posts: 91
HotChef is on a distinguished road
Default just saw the ad again

and the statement was made by the
Food and Agricultural Organisation (FAO) which is one of the more respected organisations within the United Nations.
__________________
good food, one of the few pleasures left to mankind...
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 11-25-2006, 07:45 AM
cakerookie's Avatar
Registered User
Culinary Experience: Line Cook
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: The Carolinas
Posts: 1,203
cakerookie is on a distinguished road
Default

Can't argue with that.

Rgds Rook
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 11-26-2006, 07:00 AM
Registered User
Culinary Experience: Professional Chef
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: since 16 years in Moscow,Russia
Posts: 91
HotChef is on a distinguished road
Talking actually saw the whole clip now

and that shows the whole thing in a little different light.
the whole story was about finding different ways of shrimps trawling that for instance turtles and fish are not caught in the net where they are not being 'needed'. so they introduces new nets with a sort of 'flap' on the side where the more' clever' fish and turtles can escape.
in the philippines for instance the bycatch is not so much a problem as such ( meaning thrown over board) as the trawler's crew are allowed to keep the fish and sell it. so, when using the new nets, with less bycatch the crew are loosing out.therefore the captain pays them a % of the catch and everyone is happy. the little fishes escape, grow. and are eventually caught when the have a decent size...
it is different in mexico( that was the second part) there the crew has to sort them out ( they can't keep the fish) and don't get nothing, except of extra work. so for them the introduction of these nets has advantages. less bycatch, less sorting to do and more time to catch more shrimps...
__________________
good food, one of the few pleasures left to mankind...
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 12-02-2006, 06:50 PM
felixe the dog's Avatar
Registered User
Culinary Experience: Professional Pastry Chef
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: A long way from home!
Posts: 187
felixe the dog is on a distinguished road
Default

that makes more sense, thanks.
__________________
Leading the global ban on cup and spoon measurements in recipes!
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 12-02-2006, 11:28 PM
Jock's Avatar
Registered User
Culinary Experience: At home cook
 
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: San Francisco
Posts: 1,171
Jock is on a distinguished road
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by HotChef View Post
and that shows the whole thing in a little different light.
the whole story was about finding different ways of shrimps trawling that for instance turtles and fish are not caught in the net where they are not being 'needed'. so they introduces new nets with a sort of 'flap' on the side where the more' clever' fish and turtles can escape.
in the philippines for instance the bycatch is not so much a problem as such ( meaning thrown over board) as the trawler's crew are allowed to keep the fish and sell it. so, when using the new nets, with less bycatch the crew are loosing out.therefore the captain pays them a % of the catch and everyone is happy. the little fishes escape, grow. and are eventually caught when the have a decent size...
it is different in mexico( that was the second part) there the crew has to sort them out ( they can't keep the fish) and don't get nothing, except of extra work. so for them the introduction of these nets has advantages. less bycatch, less sorting to do and more time to catch more shrimps...
I saw this report (or one similar) recently and the point the report made was that by-catch is undesirable for the industry because the fishermen have to spend valuable resources to sort them out. They would much prefer to harvest only shrimp. That's why the industry is researching methods to minimize by-catch. It's a win win.

Jock
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Sponsored links
Reply


Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are Off

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
What a waste Headless Chicken The Late Night Cafe (non-food/cooking discussion) 3 07-04-2005 10:23 AM
dried shrimp stircrazy Food & Cooking Questions and Discussion 3 05-05-2004 01:32 AM
Sugarless Fish Sauce/Shrimp Paste/Dried Shrimp scott123 Food & Cooking Questions and Discussion 3 03-02-2004 07:31 AM
shrimp po boy tipordie Food & Cooking Questions and Discussion 4 07-19-2003 01:30 AM
shrimp tropic Food & Cooking Questions and Discussion 2 02-28-2000 03:52 AM


All times are GMT -7. The time now is 09:32 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.6.9
Copyright ©2000 - 2008, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.1.0
© 1998 - 2006 ChefTalk.com • All rights reservedAd Management by RedTyger

1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 48 49 50 51 52 53 54 55 56 57 58 59 60 61 62 63 64 65 66 67 68 69 70 71 72 73 74 75 76 77 78 79 80 81 82 83 84 85 86 87 88 89 90 91 92 93 94 95 96 97 98 99 100 101 102 103 104 105 106 107 108 109 110 111 112 113 114 115 116 117 118