[HotChef]

up to 20 kgr of other fish are being killed /thrown away to get
ONLY 1 kgr of SHRIMPS.
we chefs can do our small part to elliminate part of it. buy commercially bred shrimps!

[felixe the dog]

Originally Posted by HotChef

up to 20 kgr of other fish are being killed /thrown away to get
ONLY 1 kgr of SHRIMPS.

Bollocks!! Hot Chef where did you get this information? Quote your source or remove such an outrageous statement.

[HotChef]

..it is being shown on bbc world the last 3 weeks ( since we have cable..)
and when it is aired the next time i will watch it and also find out who posted it. it is the world food organisation but i will make double sure!
i do not suck this out of my fingers or quote the 'beef breeders association'....

[cakerookie]

Kind of like the senseless killing of sharks to get their fins for shark fin soup its unreal! But with commerical fishing, especially in nets there are going to be some unwanted creatures that get caught up in the net. I honestly do not believe that these trawlers are intentionally killing these animals they are just trying to make a living and sometimes thats the price you pay when your in the wrong place at the wrong time. Now granted the animals do not know that. There are two sides to this story and an arguement could be made for both.

Rgds Rook

[HotChef]

and the statement was made by the
Food and Agricultural Organisation (FAO) which is one of the more respected organisations within the United Nations.

[cakerookie]

Can't argue with that.

Rgds Rook

[HotChef]

and that shows the whole thing in a little different light.
the whole story was about finding different ways of shrimps trawling that for instance turtles and fish are not caught in the net where they are not being 'needed'. so they introduces new nets with a sort of 'flap' on the side where the more' clever' fish and turtles can escape.
in the philippines for instance the bycatch is not so much a problem as such ( meaning thrown over board) as the trawler's crew are allowed to keep the fish and sell it. so, when using the new nets, with less bycatch the crew are loosing out.therefore the captain pays them a % of the catch and everyone is happy. the little fishes escape, grow. and are eventually caught when the have a decent size...
it is different in mexico( that was the second part) there the crew has to sort them out ( they can't keep the fish) and don't get nothing, except of extra work. so for them the introduction of these nets has advantages. less bycatch, less sorting to do and more time to catch more shrimps...

[felixe the dog]

that makes more sense, thanks.

[Jock]

Originally Posted by HotChef

and that shows the whole thing in a little different light.
the whole story was about finding different ways of shrimps trawling that for instance turtles and fish are not caught in the net where they are not being 'needed'. so they introduces new nets with a sort of 'flap' on the side where the more' clever' fish and turtles can escape.
in the philippines for instance the bycatch is not so much a problem as such ( meaning thrown over board) as the trawler's crew are allowed to keep the fish and sell it. so, when using the new nets, with less bycatch the crew are loosing out.therefore the captain pays them a % of the catch and everyone is happy. the little fishes escape, grow. and are eventually caught when the have a decent size...
it is different in mexico( that was the second part) there the crew has to sort them out ( they can't keep the fish) and don't get nothing, except of extra work. so for them the introduction of these nets has advantages. less bycatch, less sorting to do and more time to catch more shrimps...

I saw this report (or one similar) recently and the point the report made was that by-catch is undesirable for the industry because the fishermen have to spend valuable resources to sort them out. They would much prefer to harvest only shrimp. That's why the industry is researching methods to minimize by-catch. It's a win win.

Jock