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01-06-2007, 07:21 PM
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| | Planning an online cooking show I'm working on doing a series of Youtube type cooking shows for people with celiac disease and gluten intolerance. I'm going to be doing just short shows, but who knows, if it gets a following it might grow into something big, so I want to start out doing everything properly as far as professionalism and courtesy goes.
My questions are about recipes, and at what point you can honorably call a recipe your own creation. I did some searching on the board and found some discussions on copyright, so I know that if you use the same ingredients and just rewrite the process, legally it's now your recipe. But is that frowned upon?
For example, if I find a recipe on a recipe board and changed one thing (other than just making it GF), and then called it mine and "sold" it as mine on my show, would that make the writer of the original recipe upset? Would that be stepping on toes? Or is that just how new recipes are written?
Also, if you create a new version of a recipe, is it customary to then rename the recipe? My guess is that if it's a basic recipe, like chicken and dumplings, you can call it chicken and dumplings no matter what you do with it. But if it's a recipe that someone just named something like Super Spicy Chicken, you'd want to rename it something else. Am I on the right track with this?
Nancy
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01-06-2007, 07:43 PM
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| | From what I have read only the instructions are copyright not the ingredients. The instructions are considered a literary work and cannot be reproduced. Maybe Suzanne or someone else will see this that knows more good luck.
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01-07-2007, 08:54 AM
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| | Hi Nancy,
I would get into the habit of stating that this is my version. Almost any recipe you may come across can be found done prior if you research hard enough. Someone probably has done it. Not so in your case though.
As Rook says, I would pay particular attention to your method and proceedure. I would document it before and after in case you make a change on camera. I'm doing a little bit of this myself these days. Not as easy as it appears.
I think your service is needed and will be educational.
Not sure where you are but here there are many studios for rent for a very nominal price. Some supply all the necessities. They can't make you slim though
pan | 
01-07-2007, 08:58 AM
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| | give credit where credit is due, if you find a recipe you like and follow it step by step and it turns out like you would like it to, then say something like,"i found this recipe on the web" or something. copyrights, like everything else, expire and must be renewed, is it every 50 years or something? you would be hard pressed to find something entirely new, something that hasn't been done before. we have a platform to build on, culinary basics. you might say i like that, but i am going to make it lighter or fresher or i am going to present it differently and it becomes your own. this is just my .02 cents worth and hope i havent muddied the waters. good luck
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01-07-2007, 09:14 AM
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| | eds
nothing is muddied.I went back and reread Nancy. I agree that if yoiu are going to use someones recipe exactly, then sure, credit them and also let them know and get permission.
but if you research chili recipes and come up with one you like using ingredients from a few, well, I think yuou should call it your version.
I'm in the process of trying to get another new business in town to not use my name. I've had it forever, but if I don't react in a certain period of time they get to use it and can force me to change. It's crazy!! I just keep feeding the lawyers more monies.
pan | 
01-07-2007, 09:22 AM
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| | Quote:
Originally Posted by panini eds
nothing is muddied.I went back and reread Nancy. I agree that if yoiu are going to use someones recipe exactly, then sure, credit them and also let them know and get permission.
but if you research chili recipes and come up with one you like using ingredients from a few, well, I think yuou should call it your version.
I'm in the process of trying to get another new business in town to not use my name. I've had it forever, but if I don't react in a certain period of time they get to use it and can force me to change. It's crazy!! I just keep feeding the lawyers more monies.
pan | i must have been typing my reply when you posted, great minds think alike, is that it? i agree with what you said, good luck with the name thing, what a pain
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01-15-2007, 02:49 PM
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| | Thanks for all the information everyone. Had a bunch of family drama so I just got back to the board.
I looked at local studio rentals, and they actually have one here that has a fully working studio kitchen!! I also have a friend of the family who is into photography and a lot of his friends are videographers or do post production. So if I want to do something more than the YouTube type thing, I've got a good starting point.
Thanks for the help and ideas!
Nancy
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01-15-2007, 02:59 PM
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| | Let me know what you think. I have been into the studio a dozen or so times so far. I hate myself on camera. I do get many compliments from the pros though. wierd. |  |
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