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Old 12-23-2000, 10:37 AM
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Post How long can you keep hollandaise?

I was thinking of eggs benedict for the Xmas breakfast but because of other things I'll have going on, there's no way I can make it right then.

How can you extend the stove life of hollandaise, make it a couple of hours earlier and still have it be in good shape when used? Or am I just tilting at windmills here? Please advise.
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Live to cook,

Hollandaise is a four hour sauce. You should throw it out and start over after that. Remember that it is a egg base product. You should not mess with egg base products. I know that it is a pain in the butt, but safty first.

When you make it keep it on the stove while you cook, but not too hot.

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Dlee, do you just keep it on low? Put it in a warmer?

The four hour thing, is that a bacteria/safety thing, or is it that the sauce will separate/curdle?
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Live to cook,

Just keep it on the stove away from any direct heat. Or keep it in any warm place. No direct heat.

The four hour thing is a bacteria/safty thing.

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Thanks again D. Lee.
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technically speaking, or perhaps based on a food law thingy, in Aus, any sauce kept over 4 hrs has to be brought to the boil at least x amount of minutes. Like this is possible.

Im sure, bacterially speaking, this rule will extend to many parts of the world.
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Two things you could do: 1. rig up a double boiler to keep it warm softly. 2. put in a vaccuum flask a.k.a. a thermos. I personally prefer a d.b. that it way I can at least see it when it scrambles and needs to be pitched.
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How about keeping it in the fridge and warming it when you're ready to use it.
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I've heard that if you put it in the refrigerator it turns into a hard lump of lemon butter that separates and curdles on reheating. If I needed it in two hours and had time to make it now, I would definitely try the insulated food jar method. Where I used to work they would put the pan in a "warm" place on top of one of the ovens, where sometimes it would cook and break, and other times it would chill and crystallize, depending on whether the oven was in use.
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live_to_cook, Yes there are many "modern" ways to make hollandaise sauce. It is my recomodation that the best way is the classic way. As dlee said just keep it in a warm place (internail temputure should not exceed 110 degrees) As nick shu pointed out ,which is true here as that a sauce that has been sitting for four hours must be brought to a boil...165 degrees for fifteen minutes. This is of course impossible with hollandaise. You can not boil it,and you can not hold it above 140 degrees (HAACP)you can hold this sauce safely for four hours,But understand there are two reason this sauce is not being made by Chefs like it used to
#1 People are just eating lighter preparations of food. Hollandaise and the like are artery killers.
#2 It is a breeding ground for many food born pathogens...foods must be keep below 45 degrees or above 140 degrees,this sauce misses the boat on both ends.
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To keep a holandaise in the fridge .... never heard that before. The thing with hollandaise is that it is a very temperamental sauce. What I mean is it breaks in a heart beat too cold or too warm.

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One way I can recomend is to, seperate your egg yolks, and keep them in the fridge. Then you can keep your butter warm till you need it. Then when you are ready to serve, fifteen minutes before service you go ahead and make your sauce.

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I've kept hollandaise in the fridge and never had problem with it. It tasted very good and no curdle.
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Dlee , you have hit the nail on the head .
hollandaise sauce is a very quick sauce to make . Once made it does need to be used within 4 hours . I have personally seen the damage done when it has been used past the safety zone and you do not want to take a chance on serving your guests a potentially hazardous meal . Good luck with your meal and keep cookin .
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It is ok to keep your eggs in the fridge.
But it is important to let them temper before you start,Or you will not incorporate enough air or butter and it is more apt to break
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Sisi,

How do you reheat it? Also how long would/did you keep it in the fridge?

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