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06-14-2007, 04:36 PM
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06-14-2007, 04:47 PM
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It really is getting ridiculous isn't it.
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06-14-2007, 05:05 PM
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The story doesn't mention PETA ...
And no, it's not getting ridiculous. If there's a way (as mentioned in the article) to kill these creatures that may be less painful to them, then by all means it behooves us to at least use that method, at least try to be more humane.
Even many predator animals try to make their kills swiftly and (although I'm sure they're not actually thinkng about it) as painless as possible.
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06-14-2007, 05:44 PM
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Originally Posted by shel The story doesn't mention PETA ...
And no, it's not getting ridiculous. If there's a way (as mentioned in the article) to kill these creatures that may be less painful to them, then by all means it behooves us to at least use that method, at least try to be more humane.
Even many predator animals try to make their kills swiftly and (although I'm sure they're not actually thinkng about it) as painless as possible.
Shel | Give me a break, I'm a chef, not a animal activist. This is how I make my living.
There put on earth for us to eat. If you don't want to eat them then don't. But don't tell me about more humane ways to "kill" a frigging crab.
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06-14-2007, 05:58 PM
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| | I'm All For PETA
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06-14-2007, 06:01 PM
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Originally Posted by cape chef Give me a break, I'm a chef, not a animal activist. This is how I make my living.
There put on earth for us to eat. If you don't want to eat them then don't. But don't tell me about more humane ways to "kill" a frigging crab. | Seems like I touched upon a nerve, eh. Why not be humane and considerate to the food (animals) that you eat? Is there some reason that concept isn't worth implementing or even considering?
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06-14-2007, 06:31 PM
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Shel, you are right, the article doesn't mention PETA, and I have no idea if there is any affiliation to the group mentioned. My bad.
That said, there isn't a chef out there, even Cape Chef, especially Cape Chef, who unnaturally, deliberately prolongs the horror of impending death on little creatures.
Go on YouTube and look up the lion pride killing a water buffalo calf and tell me lions kill swiftly in the wild.... Maybe PETA and NOAH and all those other groups who forget to credit their health or their lives to suffering animals should charge them too. |
06-14-2007, 06:35 PM
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Originally Posted by shel Even many predator animals try to make their kills swiftly and (although I'm sure they're not actually thinkng about it) as painless as possible.
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On what research do you base this statement? Stating that predators "try" to do something, indicates they would be thinking.
If you have some links with that type of information, I'd be willing to read them.
Personally, I'm not going to worry to much about a crab or lobster. They treat each other pretty brutally in the wild, a quick dunk in rolling boil and then some drawn butter doesn't seem too inhumane to me. |
06-14-2007, 07:14 PM
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This from the article linked above: Quote: |
Norway's Food Safety Authority will establish a committee to examine the question of what crabs can feel during the boiling.
| Seems like trying to decide how many angels can dance on the head of a pin. 
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06-14-2007, 07:41 PM
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Originally Posted by MuskyHopeful On what research do you base this statement? Stating that predators "try" to do something, indicates they would be thinking. | You're right - poor choice of words on my part.
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06-14-2007, 07:44 PM
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Scientific concensus is that crustaceans do not feel pain.
I'd love Luc the food scientist to chime in on this one as well.
They do not have the brain neurons that process pain.
Remember these particular animals soak up water, then basically explode out of their shell to grow a size and develop a new shell. A lobster or crab that is 7 years old has gone through this process dozens of times, so I seriously doubt a couple seconds alive in boiling water is a big deal.
And man do they taste good!
As previously stated, they are also very violent animals in their natural domain. Having a claw and arm (sometimes both) ripped off during daily battles is not uncommom, yet they miraculously grow new ones next time they molt.
The only pain felt during a boiling death is the guilt of the person who can't keep their emotions in check.
By the way, it is also dangerous and generally illegal to cook an already dead crustacean because toxins begin to form very shortly after death, which when critical mass is achevied will harm and potential killer the person who eats it. This is why lobsters and crabs are always cooked alive and dead ones are discarded.
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06-14-2007, 07:55 PM
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Predators mostly kill their prey quickly probably because they are really hungry! And it gives them less chance to get away. Simple as that.
As for the crabs - Norway must have too much money in its coffers to spend on crabby thoughts. How the heck....I mean c'mon ! I can tell them now - their main thought would be "OUCH!" That probably just saved a lot of dollars.
If it bothers you - chill them down in the freezer first. But who says this is comfortable either? Maybe that should be researched too 
I dunno - things were simpler when we went crabbing on the beach in flip flops with all the relatives, got bitten toes, sunburn, then boiled off the crabs in a massive pot and had a feast, then washed off in the sea and a great day was had by all including the seagulls (except the crabs, naturally).
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06-14-2007, 08:08 PM
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Shel
Ingrid whatsherface, the head of PETA, has publicly stated that she would be happy if there was a massive outbreak of FMD in the US, because it would drive meat prices up, and less people would be able to afford meat products.
She would be perfectly ok with a bunch of sick, uncomfortable animals (some die).
Several PETA activists were recently caught KILLING animals on a farm, trying to frame the owners. What amazing hypocrisy. It's a money machine and a business, not too different from organized religion in my book.
Also, PETA's mission is to eliminate humans from the top of the food chain.
Anti-Human is the highest form of InHumane in my opinion.
I am happy and feel lucky to be sitting on the top of that hill.
If a lion attacked and ate your child or pet, would you just laugh it off as natural animal or kill the friggin animal so it wouldn't harm your neighbors kids?
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06-14-2007, 11:41 PM
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Originally Posted by DC Sunshine Predators mostly kill their prey quickly probably because they are really hungry! And it gives them less chance to get away. Simple as that.
| idk DC! LOL, have you ever seen a fox play with a field mouse before on Animal Planet? lol!
I bet the Norwegian crab fisherman are skeered to death that they will have an impact on all who eat crab! I hope they do, cuz it will mean there will be more for me! Yummy!!!!  |
06-14-2007, 11:55 PM
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Let's all remember that crabs, lobsters and crayfish are basically just marine bugs. Really, really tasty marine bugs. 
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