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07-08-2007, 04:32 PM
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| | Hot Dog Taste Test If you like dogs, here's a page that should hold your interest: The Great Off The Broiler Hot Dog Tasting of 2007
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07-08-2007, 05:47 PM
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| | Cool post! It's funny, but to this day, one of my favorite dogs is from Papaya King at East 86th.
I've had Rutt's Hutt and the dogs there are a completely different experience.
Most often we do griddled or grilled Boar's Head dogs. I like the snap that you get from it. | 
07-09-2007, 08:44 AM
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| | Ah sheesh!!!
None of these are sold in Canada! Bummer...
Anecdote,
my little girl (12) read an article in school that described how hot dogs are made and decided to never eat hot dogs again. When I asked her why she replied that because they were made with intestines. I told her I would respect her decision. What I did not tell her is that commercial hot dogs are made with plastic casings which are removed before packaging but most any other sausages Daddy buys is filled in natural casings i.e. pork intestines. one day I will tell her.
Luc H.
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07-09-2007, 08:58 AM
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| | When I was much younger I sold hot dogs in the stands at Yankee Stadium. Took me a long time to get over that, and, to this day, the smell of most franks cooking makes me ill. | 
07-09-2007, 09:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Luc_H What I did not tell her is that commercial hot dogs are made with plastic casings which are removed before packaging but most any other sausages Daddy buys is filled in natural casings i.e. pork intestines. one day I will tell her.
Luc H. | So what are the "natural casings" that so many hot dogs are made with? There are numerous "commercial" brands that are made with such casings.
Shel | 
07-09-2007, 09:25 AM
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| | Not where I live...
Most commercial hot dogs in Montreal/Quebec are made by a handfull of companies. All of these companies form and cook their weiners in a plastic casing then cut and peel the casings before packaging. When you look at a hot dog closely it has a faint line along the length of it, that's where the knife cut the casing.
Rumours say hot dogs are made of <lips and a$$holes>. Not entirely true. They are made of MDM, mechanically deboned meat or mechanically separated meat which, is composed of necks, tails, joints that are crushed then the meat is squeezed thru a screen which retains the bone grits. They used to use chicken wings and pork ribs but both have become hot food items and expensive.
Other meat byproducts are cows stomachs. The rest of the ingredients are mostly binders e.g. starch, soy protein, gums, etc..
I do not know if collagen (gelatin) casings can be considered natural in the US.
Luc H.
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07-09-2007, 09:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Luc_H Not where I live...
Most commercial hot dogs in Montreal/Quebec are made by a handfull of companies. All of these companies form and cook their weiners in a plastic casing then cut and peel the casings before packaging. When you look at a hot dog closely it has a faint line along the length of it, that's where the knife cut the casing.
[...] I do not know if collagen (gelatin) casings can be considered natural in the US.
Luc H. | There are a number of US companies that use natural sheep casings. Two that come immediately to mind are Nathan's Famous in NYC and, locally, Miller's. I know there are other but I just can't think of their names right now. There are certainly a few in the San Francisco Bay Area, that's for sure.
Shel | 
07-09-2007, 10:52 AM
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| | I buy my hot dogs ( all beef ) from my halall butcher, beleive me I cant eat more than 2, they are more filling than any hot dogs I ever ate | 
07-09-2007, 10:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Ninja_59 I buy my hot dogs ( all beef ) from my halall butcher ... | Hmmm - I never thought to check the local Halal places for dogs. Thanks for the idea.
Shel | 
07-09-2007, 11:25 AM
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| | There really great Shel, the ones I buy, all the writing is in arabic & are aprox, 1 1/2'' to 2 '' longer than the one at grocery store.
Your welcome
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07-10-2007, 05:26 PM
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| | oh wow! Excited here!  We have my halal butchers here!  Will try them this weekend. | 
07-10-2007, 08:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Luc_H Not where I live...
Most commercial hot dogs in Montreal/Quebec are made by a handfull of companies. All of these companies form and cook their weiners in a plastic casing then cut and peel the casings before packaging. When you look at a hot dog closely it has a faint line along the length of it, that's where the knife cut the casing.
Rumours say hot dogs are made of <lips and a$$holes>. Not entirely true. They are made of MDM, mechanically deboned meat or mechanically separated meat which, is composed of necks, tails, joints that are crushed then the meat is squeezed thru a screen which retains the bone grits. They used to use chicken wings and pork ribs but both have become hot food items and expensive.
Other meat byproducts are cows stomachs. The rest of the ingredients are mostly binders e.g. starch, soy protein, gums, etc..
I do not know if collagen (gelatin) casings can be considered natural in the US.
Luc H. | Luc
The MBM process is now illegal in Europe and the US due to BSE.
I'm not sure about Canada but I suspect the same.
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