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07-13-2007, 02:19 PM
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| |  Making soups without a burner/stove?
What would be the preferred way to make soups from scratch for a cafe without the use of a burner? My current location does not have the hoods and ventilation in order to have a stove. What products and procedures are recommended to do this? What could I do about the meats for lets say chicken noodle soup? The last thing I want to do is have to buy pre-made soups.. 
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07-13-2007, 03:01 PM
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It's summer - why not make cold soups? |
07-13-2007, 03:32 PM
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How much soup do you need to make daily ?
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07-13-2007, 03:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Ma Facon  How much soup do you need to make daily ? | 1-3 gallons depending on how much we sell
I will start off with smaller batches, about 1 gallon
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07-13-2007, 03:54 PM
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The last food service unit I operated had NO heating equipment, with the exception of a half-size convection oven. I purchased 6 butane (Iwatani) burners to do all my "stove top" cooking. I resorted to Knorr's soup mixes and enhanced them, as needed. Actually, they are not so bad... add water, bring to a boil and allow to thicken, serve. Made, if I recall correctly, 2 gallons at a shot. The Knorr folks even supplied the merchandising/display pieces, soup inserts, menu cards, etc. I went through about 2 cases of butane per week and broke about 1 burner a month, which isn't really bad considering that I didn't have many other expenses is the area of utilities.
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07-13-2007, 06:54 PM
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Make the soups at home and transport. What's a few gallons ? Easy and controllable. You can make anything you want. 
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07-13-2007, 09:12 PM
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"Cooking Homework" now that's dedication... think the health department might have an issue with that, though.
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07-14-2007, 01:46 AM
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We landed man on the moon over 40 years ago.....
There MUST be some kind of soup cooker out there or something that can be purchased that will accomplish the task!
I heard mention of a device called a cook and serve?
The inspectors will be customers so the homework thing is a no go  , and they made specific mention of wanting soup
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07-14-2007, 02:13 AM
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Do you have a microwave? I had my whole range go down eight days from port one time. Thank goodness, only had twelve people on board to feed, but they were soup lovers.
I did the saute veggies and herb thing in the microwave, then added meat? or grains? or beans? and some stock and put in crock pot to finish.
BTW, most know that fish, chicken and veggies work well in microwave, but meatloaf comes out really nice, like a big juicy meatball, need sauce, not brown. Also frittatas and bread pudding for breakfast; and, of course oatmeal. you learn a lot in eight days, did have commercial size microwave and a great micro cookbook
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07-14-2007, 07:54 AM
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Shipscook's idea of using a microwave oven is a pretty good idea. I've made a lot of things, including soup, in a microwave. Why didn't I think of that? <LOL>
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07-14-2007, 10:16 AM
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Originally Posted by shipscook Do you have a microwave? I had my whole range go down eight days from port one time. Thank goodness, only had twelve people on board to feed, but they were soup lovers.
I did the saute veggies and herb thing in the microwave, then added meat? or grains? or beans? and some stock and put in crock pot to finish.
BTW, most know that fish, chicken and veggies work well in microwave, but meatloaf comes out really nice, like a big juicy meatball, need sauce, not brown. Also frittatas and bread pudding for breakfast; and, of course oatmeal. you learn a lot in eight days, did have commercial size microwave and a great micro cookbook |
Thanks for the tip! I really have to start working on some recipes! |
07-15-2007, 06:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Vinnie T
I heard mention of a device called a cook and serve? | I do believe the commoners call this a crock pot.
Depending on your budget and space concerns, could this not work? http://www.atlantafixture.com/Detail...PERMANENT+WARE
Somebody else here prob knows more than me about what temp the soup has to stay at, etc.
Or you could get really good at gazpacho. |
07-15-2007, 07:57 PM
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Yep go the microwave  They're not as nasty as some make them out to be hehe - I'd be lost without mine.
Could you use an electric frypan in your location? Some are pretty big - or would the issue of no exhaust fans prevent using one....just a thought.
DC
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07-19-2007, 08:00 AM
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Originally Posted by DC Sunshine Yep go the microwave They're not as nasty as some make them out to be hehe - I'd be lost without mine.
Could you use an electric frypan in your location? Some are pretty big - or would the issue of no exhaust fans prevent using one....just a thought.
DC | I thought about the electric frying pan, but we have no exhaust fans to speak of. I was wondering if this would be do able just to cook some meats and brown some veggies? But if not i could always go the micro wave technique. |
07-19-2007, 04:55 PM
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Don't mess around with a microwave, just go with a 5litre crock pot or 2. They are cheap and will keep you soup warm after it has cooked. | | |
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