Country of Origin Concerns

[shel]

Originally Posted by bluezebra

shel, you are sooo hugely lucky!!!! san fran markets must be gorgeous and the seafood! I can only fantasize and drool, trust me on that one!

Hey shel speaking of San Fran, have you ever been to Brandy Ho's?

Don't confuse San Francisco with other parts of the Bay Area. AFAIK, SF has but two farmers markets, one @ Ferry Plaza and another, on Sunday, downtown. I cannot speak for the quality at the downtown market, but many people feel that the Ferry Plaza market is good. By comparison, Berkeley and surrounds have something like fifty markets (literally depending upon where you draw the line ) most all of which comply with some standards. With the exception of Monday, there are markets nearby every day.

Some of the best seafood in SF is provided by a guy here in Berkeley. He's known all over California and often gets the most interesting fish, and certainly some of the freshest. There are also a few good salmon fisherman here and there's very good fishing north, along the coast.

Yes, I've been to Brandy Ho's, but it's been a while. A lot of us preferred Henry Chung's Hunan - just a few doors away from Brandy Ho's, but both are well regarded.

The truth is, the Bay Area is a mecca for foodies, and, arguably, Berkeley is Ground Zero.

Shel

[bluezebra]

Hi shel thanks for straightening me out!!!

And also, thanks for the heads up on Henry Chung's Hunan! I will spread the good word!

(you're still lucky! )

[shel]

Originally Posted by bluezebra

And also, thanks for the heads up on Henry Chung's Hunan! I will spread the good word!

(you're still lucky! )

When Henry opened his Hunan restaurant, it was the first Hunan restaurant in the area, and maybe even the first in the country. It was a very small place, maybe four or six seats at the counter and about five or six tables. There was a narrow aisle between the counter and the tables, and the tables were lined up along a wall, with just barely enough space for a chair between the table and the wall.

On a Friday or Saturday night the line for people waiting to get in could stretch around the block. Needless to say, the restaurant was crowded and everything was a VERY tight fit.

Now, here's the thing - in order to sit at a table, on the wall side, there was only one way to gain access, crawl on your hands and knees under the table and wiggle your way to a chair. It was an amazing sight to see people crawling under those tables to get seated or to leave the restaurant. Crawl, wiggle, wiggle, crawl ...

I'd been in small restaurants before, but this may have been the tightest fit of all. Of course, everyone crawled - rich and poor, hippies and yuppies. T'was a vey democratic seating process

SF Gate: Multimedia (image)

Shel

[OregonYeti]

Wow is that a successful start or what!! Very cool history.

[bluezebra]

hahahahaaha! What a cool story! It just goes to show you that if the food is out of this world and limit who and how many get to experience it, you can set expectations really high! (which means a person will jump through about any hoop to experience it!) Then relish talking about being in the elite group who is in the "inner circle". Elitism sure works in the restaurant and catering biz!

[shel]

Originally Posted by bluezebra

hahahahaaha! What a cool story! It just goes to show you that if the food is out of this world and limit who and how many get to experience it, you can set expectations really high! (which means a person will jump through about any hoop to experience it!) Then relish talking about being in the elite group who is in the "inner circle". Elitism sure works in the restaurant and catering biz!

It wasn't Henry and Diane's intention to limit the number of people at the restaurant. They had little money, and the small place was all they could afford. However, without any advertising - just word of mouth - the place really took off. But the end result was the same.

Henry's 87 or 88 yo now, has four restaurants (he's pretty much retired), and it's still a family business. If youcan find his cookbook, you'd find some great recipes - easy and tasty. I've posted one or two here at some point, and have a few more on the computer. Maybe I'll post a few more.

Kind regards,

Shel

[bluezebra]

Thanks Shel that would be wonderful if you would post them sometime! I've come to the conclusion that I can cook most of it better at home than going out! I've found very few that I really enjoy here although we do have some dynamite Vietnamese places and noodle houses!

What is the name of his book, do you remember?

TIA! *Mwuah!*

[shel]

Originally Posted by bluezebra

Thanks Shel that would be wonderful if you would post them sometime! I've come to the conclusion that I can cook most of it better at home than going out! I've found very few that I really enjoy here although we do have some dynamite Vietnamese places and noodle houses!

What is the name of his book, do you remember?

Many of Henry's recipes are quite easy. The key, as in all cooking, is to get and use quality and "authentic" ingredients or proper substitutes. I'll post some recipes in the recipe section and links to those that I have posted here.

Of course I remember the name of his book! Henry's book, and Jim Lee's Chinese cook book are my two favorite chinese cook books.

Amazon.com: Henry Chungs Hunan Style Chinese Cookbook

I urge you to get a copy ... I got mine from Henry when it first came out. I only wish I asked him and Diane to sign it. The book is OOP now, but sometimes you can still find a good used copy, like above.

Shel

[OregonYeti]

I'll be looking for that book. Thx

[shel]

Originally Posted by OregonYeti

I'll be looking for that book. Thx

I understand that there's a paperback edition as well ... but if you can, go for the real thing ...

Shel

[shel]

http://www.cheftalk.com/forums/recip...-ham-soup.html

Shel