Robert Irvine versus Gordon Ramsay

[Free Rider]

Kitchen Nightmares is both American and British. The American version began somewhat after and is based upon the British version. (Ramsay, right?)

Dinner Impossible is and American show. (Irvine?)

H3 Kitchen is an American show. (Ramsay)

[Smylietron]

I've dug Ramsay ever since he advocated eating horse meat. The guy's brutally honest, a **** good chef, and I'm embarrassed to admit I enjoy the machismo.

Irvine I know next to nothing about, but I'm learning more thanks to this thread.

[CarlAird]

Robert Irvine Is Just Hot!!!!!!!!
So He Wins Everything!

[Blueicus]

Eh, I dunno, Irvine's too bulky up top... he looks like a WWF "wrestler" who took too many steroids.

[YoungGun]

I think that what's been forgotten is that chefs are artists, and every artist has a different way of expressing themselves. Perhaps Irvine's quiet, no PR style of "real" cooking is how he's most comfotable. To compare him to Gordon Ramsay's balls-to-the-wall, flashy style is like comparing apples and oranges. Can you compare Picasso to van Gogh? Of course, but you would never come to a consensus because their art was individually fantastic. Ramsay has strength enough to run several restaurants worldwide, produce and star in television shows, and clearly stays fit and mentally sane. He's an amazing Chef, clearly. Michelin stars aren't given out like candy to anyone who's popular (Ahem, Bobby Flay), just like Academy Awards are never given out for popular films like Mission: Impossible. Irvine has come up in a very unique way and, judging from his show, is equally able to motivate and lead by different means.

[Jayme]

I also am not familiar w/ Irvine... but I have to admit, I'd love to have the opportunity to cook w/ Ramsey. Perhaps I'm a bit warped, but I love the challenge.... LOL the first time I ever saw H#ll's Kitchen, I said "I'd like to be in his kitchen- I bet I could learn alot!" I have heard from people that have said he does have a foul mouth and he is arrogant (who of us isn't at times?), but much of what you see on the tv show is theatrics. Did you catch the Bon Appetite mag issue about 3 months ago that did an "at home w/ Ramsey"? photos and interviews with his 4 young children (they have sheep in their backyard) and his beautiful wife..... he has obviously has got a talent that goes beyond the kitchen (4 tv shows now???), whether you like him or not, you have to respect his business sense.

[AndyG]

Better get your own style going tho, or you'll just be another "whoizzat"

[Ishbel]

Jayme - a couple of years ago, Ramsay raised small pigs in his back garden, and named them after Trinny and Susannah, two 'style' gurus. He sent them to market with great relish!

Previously he'd kept turkeys - and named them after prominent UK chefs... ditto the relish!

[Smylietron]

Originally Posted by Ishbel

Jayme - a couple of years ago, Ramsay raised small pigs in his back garden, and named them after Trinny and Susannah, two 'style' gurus. He sent them to market with great relish!

Previously he'd kept turkeys - and named them after prominent UK chefs... ditto the relish!

That made me laugh out loud when I read about it. But in truth I'm quite impressed--few if any of the most dedicated foodies raise their own meat, and I'd imagine Ramsay is quite keenly connected to his food.

[Ishbel]

He is.... just try eating at his restaurants (but whisper that in here, there are those that haven't eaten at any of his places, but are contemptuous about the man and his skills!)

[phoenix 12]

It is made for TV. Now, Irvine, anyone that makes Mac&Cheese in a wheel barrow has to get some votes Ramsey I do like him, but if I worked for him, he would be on his A**. He does seem like a decent guy though. I'm just a I don't care who you are your NOT screaming at me type of person.

Mike

[RSteve]

I've not eaten food personally prepared by Gordon Ramsay nor Robert Irvine. I have eaten in a Gordon Ramsay owned restaurant and spoken at length with Ramsay. He is an extraordinary individual. Ramsay was cordial and very open. I cannot believe the criticism he's taken in this thread from people who have never met the man and have formed impressions based soley on what they've seen on an edited TV program.

[OahuAmateurChef]

Originally Posted by RSteve

I've not eaten food personally prepared by Gordon Ramsay nor Robert Irvine. I have eaten in a Gordon Ramsay owned restaurant and spoken at length with Ramsay. He is an extraordinary individual. Ramsay was cordial and very open. I cannot believe the criticism he's taken in this thread from people who have never met the man and have formed impressions based soley on what they've seen on an edited TV program.

I reread my first post and am a bit embarrassed. You put things into a perspective I hadn't focused on.



How fast was that calf running....

[Free Rider]

Edited tv or not... it just says there may be two sides to the man, a nice and a nasty. I prefer people with just a nice side. There have been enough Ramsay insults and there has been enough footage of him screaming to make quite a few episodes of edited tv that show just his nasty side.

[Smylietron]

True, he has a nasty side, but isn't that how professional kitchens work? Experienced chefs I've talked with have said the head chef must at times be a monster in order to keep things running properly. You don't create a restaurant empire by coddling your staff. I think it's telling that he has so many loyal workers.