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Old 08-17-2007, 11:48 PM
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Default What's the opposite of the term al dente

I know what is 'al dente' - but i do not recall the culinary term (italian or otherwise) to describe a pasta cooked mushy or soft (deliberately or accidently). In other words i want to know the term that could describe and mean the opposite of al dente - i am sure there is one

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Old 08-18-2007, 01:42 AM
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I know a term within my Italian family that has always been used but don't know if it has any real linguistic or culinary basis.

Over the years, the one generation that came here as toddlers, or the ones born here soon after arrival, that were raised in the Italian speaking house developed what might one might call a "pigeon Italian" or terms and language that are half English, half Italian and what may be a smattering of Japanese-Filipino terms (from the farm workers) thrown in. Took me years to figure out that they had developed their own version of the Italian language as the neighborhood understood them for the most part! I don't even know how it would be spelled, but phonically "mush-shod"

This is more than you ever needed to know and probably no help what so ever.
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Old 08-18-2007, 06:55 AM
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Al Dente = "To The Tooth" The opposite would be mush/overcooked/baby food, Because they don't have teeth yet.
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How about...

alla gomma = "to the gum"



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Old 08-19-2007, 12:49 AM
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So there isn't really an fficial term to describe this eh?

Any Italian chefs on this forum ?
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alla gomma = "to the gum"
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rofl Dan - pretty much what I was thinking.

I've not heard a term for it - maybe "pap"? (as in baby food)

Why would one want to cook it that way anyway? My family call it - "Mum, this pasta is horrible!" if I leave it too long.
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Old 08-19-2007, 04:59 PM
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Hi everyone,
the term for overcooked pasta is "scotta" - which means overcooked. (The word when used as a verb means very hot, but as an adjective it means overcooked.) If an italian were to eat overcooked pasta he would say "la pasta e' scotta"
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NowIamone,
Mushad is correct for the Italian-American slang. Mushy, slouchy,wrinkled. It can also be used to comment on someones personality or dress.
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It goes
al dente
regular
well done

I read that on the back of a package once
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Old 08-19-2007, 06:16 PM
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Hi everyone,
the term for overcooked pasta is "scotta" - which means overcooked. (The word when used as a verb means very hot, but as an adjective it means overcooked.) If an italian were to eat overcooked pasta he would say "la pasta e' scotta"
I wouldn't use the phrase in Greece

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Old 08-19-2007, 09:23 PM
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I wouldn't use the phrase in Greece

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oh, right. My greek friend had told me that once. But i hear greek pasta is usually "scotta" (in the italian sense)
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It goes
al dente
regular
well done

I read that on the back of a package once
Hmm, if it;s "pasta" you're talking about, which is an italian word for flour and water alimentary paste (what a horrible term) - then what they call "well-done" is not well done at all, but badly done, because overdone. Ok, just being funny. I'm actually not a snob about how these things are cooked, and if the dish is supposed to have soft noodles, that's fine with me, but not italian pasta dishes.
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Old 08-20-2007, 08:10 AM
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hammered! Killed! Dead! Inedible!
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how about "al-mushy"
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