Question:Light whipping cream vs. heavy whipping cream

[RufusTF]

Aside from the obvious difference of one product being less viscous than the other, what reasons would a cook have for using light instead of heavy? I've always used the heavy for sauces, whipped cream, etc. and every time I'm at the grocery store I look at it and wonder what the specific purpose for this product (the light) is. Anyone here have something that specifically calls for the light whipping cream?
Simply a curiosity that some of you professional folks might enlighten me on.
RTF

[Luc_H]

Hi RufusTF,

I am a food science professor (I hope that counts as a professional folk?).

Cream containing 30% or more (50%) of butterfat can be whipped. Light cream is usually below 35-36% and heavy above that.

Technically speaking. the more fat (up to 50% or so) the more stable the finished whipped cream will be. Additives like carrageenan, guar or locust bean gum also mono diglycerides are added to cream to make it stable (not separate) in the container. These additives also help in whipping. Light whipping cream would contain more gums to help during whipping.

All in all, the light whipping cream will make a lighter (maybe more fragile) whipped cream with maybe a little more effort then the heavy. Nutritionally, LWC has approx 20% less fat then HWC.

I hope this helps,
Luc H.

[foodpump]

The reason you see more "light whipping cream at the supermarkets?

(whisper...) It's cheaper!

[Luc_H]

Originally Posted by foodpump

(whisper...) It's cheaper!

ABSOLUTELY right Foodpump!!!!
Milk/dairy prices are directly proportional to butterfat content i.e. less fat = cheaper.

Luc H

[shel]

Originally Posted by Luc_H

Technically speaking. the more fat (up to 50% or so) the more stable the finished whipped cream will be. Additives like carrageenan, guar or locust bean gum also mono diglycerides are added to cream to make it stable (not separate) in the container. These additives also help in whipping. Light whipping cream would contain more gums to help during whipping.

Are you suggesting that these additives are "needed" in order to make a good, stable whipped cream using a "light" cream? What are your thoughts about these additives in a heavy cream?

Shel

[Luc_H]

Shel,

Even homogenized, cream is unstable. The additives are mainly used to stabilize the cream in the container so that it does not separate to butterfat on top and milk at the bottom when on the shelf at the supermarket. That type of configuration would be considered a faulty product for the consumer.
These same ingredients can be added in higher levels and in various combinations to stiffen the cream more and enhance whipping or to prevent the cream from collapsing when heated to make a sauce for example.
Mono and diglycerides are wax like and help to stabilize the fat in the fat/milk/air emulsion which is whipping cream.
Guar and locust bean gum come from plants (legume like)
Carrageenan is extracted from seaweed.
CMC or carboxymethylcellulose or cellulose gum is and extract from tree stump resins.

Light whipping cream is at the bottom spectrum of what can be whipped so yes, although not necessary, the additive combination is different then in the HWC to help in the whipping. Let's say it makes the product more <user-friendly> for amateur cooks.

Professionals/commercial whipping cream can be 40 to 50% butterfat. At that level, whipping cream is easy to make and very stable (utterly heavenly to taste also).

I hope I answered your question.
Luc H

[RufusTF]

Well, that certainly does answer the question! Thanks!
Just as I suspected:fat makes it good.
RTF

[shel]

Originally Posted by Luc_H

Even homogenized, cream is unstable. The additives are mainly used to stabilize the cream in the container so that it does not separate to butterfat on top and milk at the bottom when on the shelf at the supermarket. That type of configuration would be considered a faulty product for the consumer.

With this thread and your coments in mind,I checked several brands of heavy cream and half and half in the market today. They ranged from "high end" organic products to the more mundane commercial products. Four brands, two types of cream, 8 cartons of the stuff ... none had any additives. Ingredients were either cream or milk and cream.

Shel

[AndyG]

Luc even told me why basmati rice is aged and other rice isn't.

He sure knows his stuff I have to find out what tree stump resins taste best. Going camping in the wilderness.

[Luc_H]

Originally Posted by shel

Four brands, two types of cream, 8 cartons of the stuff ... none had any additives. Ingredients were either cream or milk and cream.

Shel

Hi Shel,
can you tell me if these products are homogenized? Pasteurized? (I assume they are all pasteurized), What is the best before date (can you guess the time between best before and manufacturing date?).

This can help me understand these products.

thanks

PS Happy camping Andy G!
Luc H.

[shel]

Originally Posted by Luc_H

Hi Shel,
can you tell me if these products are homogenized? Pasteurized? (I assume they are all pasteurized), What is the best before date (can you guess the time between best before and manufacturing date?).

This can help me understand these products.

Well, I'm here and the cream is at the market ... I'll have to get back to you after the next time I check ... I shop almost every day, so it shouldn't be too long before you get the info.

Shel

[shel]

Originally Posted by Luc_H

Hi Shel,
can you tell me if these products are homogenized? Pasteurized? (I assume they are all pasteurized), What is the best before date (can you guess the time between best before and manufacturing date?).

This can help me understand these products.

Looks like there's about a 14 day period for the "use by" date. Just estimating that. All are pateurized. The half-and-half products were, iirc, homogenized.

A fellow I know drinks a lot of heavy cream, and he buys several cartons at a time. That means he's often drinking the cream past it's use-by date. I tasted some that was a few days past date, and it tasted like **** compared to the fresher product.

Shel

[Luc_H]

Hi Shel,

I have retail/supermarket 35% homogenized heavy whipping cream (pasteurized of course) in my fridge right now, I bought a week ago that has a best before date of Oct 26. There lies the main difference (not saying it's better).

Luc H.

[shel]

Originally Posted by Luc_H

I have retail/supermarket 35% homogenized heavy whipping cream (pasteurized of course) in my fridge right now, I bought a week ago that has a best before date of Oct 26. There lies the main difference (not saying it's better).Luc H.

The stores I visit seem to have a high turnover rate. I don't buy/use cream, and very little milk, except when using it in a specific recipe, so I don't pay a lot of attention to the carton dates. However, since the milk/cream fridge is right next to the vegetable bins in one of the markets I frequent, I'll try to remember to check the cartons a little more regularly and see if I can better nail down the pull dates.

It's hard to believe this fellow I know has about six or so cartons of heavy cream in his fridge that's past the use-by or pull dates. I've never known anyone to drink the stuff like regular milk, either.

Shel

[Luc_H]

Originally Posted by shel

It's hard to believe this fellow I know has about six or so cartons of heavy cream in his fridge that's past the use-by or pull dates. I've never known anyone to drink the stuff like regular milk, either.

Shel

Weird eating habit. I wonder what is his reasoning? Is he on an unusual diet?

Luc H