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Old 10-31-2007, 06:31 PM
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Hmm What is the Italian equivalent?

OK...I have been think about flat breads used for rolling up fillings. The Spanish have tortilla, Indian/M.E. have naan/pita and the Chinese have the wonton. The Japanese and Koreans use seaweed and cabbage, respectively, and let's not forget Lavash.

But what is the Italian version of a flat roll bread?

I thought --at first-- it may be the pizza crust, but after really thinking about it....it couldn't be because traditionally the pizza is crisp (not like New York style pizza that is foldable).

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calzone is in that vein. But they probably have some pita influence available too.

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Focaccia. (If prepared properly) That's always been my understanding. Only thigs were baked into the top. Then there's the rollato or atleast that's what we called them. thin dough with filling rolled into them but not like the calzone or stromboli. The dough rolled from the center to the crust when slice. Kinda like a pinwheel.

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The Spanish have tortilla
Actually it's Mexico which uses the flat bread called Tortilla. In Spain a Tortilla is a kind of omlet.

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Old 10-31-2007, 08:27 PM
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Actually it's Mexico which uses the flat bread called Tortilla. In Spain a Tortilla is a kind of omlet.

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Yes....please forgive. You are correct. I always get confused on when to put Mexican, Latin, Spanish....always trying to be PC and not offend. I was afraid that the tortilla was used in more places than mexico so I went with spanish!!!! Anywho....thanks for clearing.
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calzone is in that vein. But they probably have some pita influence available too.

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Focaccia. (If prepared properly) That's always been my understanding. Simply since it was usually served in the same light.

I was thinking about those.

Have either of you heard of schiacciata?
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I was thinking about those.

Have either of you heard of schiacciata?
That's what my great grandmother (Moms side) called Pizza. Foccacia and the Rollato was what my fathers side had. There was also this pan fried bread that was served at the holiday, Sometimes it was rolled into a snake-like shape and coated in sugar and others were flat and served with cheese and dried sausage. Just can't remember the name.

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I was thinking about those.

Have either of you heard of schiacciata?
My mother (from province of Lucca) made a sweet raisin bread at the holidays flavored with anise seeds which she would call schiaccia or schiacciata.
"Schiaccia" just means squashed, and i think it referred to the procedure (being bread it was kneaded) because it was big and high and rounded.
In florence they make a sweet flat bread called schiacciata, which i ran into in a bakery, with fresh grapes on top (horrible to have to pick out the seeds as you eat the bread)

As for a flat bread, first of all, not all countries roll up sandwiches, and italy is a country with very little sandwich culture. Sandwiches are a recent idea. Peasants, workers, marble cutters, etc, brought a loaf of bread and some onions. If they were lucky a piece of cheese - eaten with the bread one in one hand and the onion or cheese in the other hand, a bite of one and a bite of the other. Or their wives brought some sort of minestrone out to them. (Pasta was for very special occasions - luxury food)

Pizza is a flat bread, and some kinds are cooked in large rectangular pans, cut in squares and eaten in the hand. Sometimes you will get white pizza (it has oil and salt on top) and you can find it split with mortadella inside. (Foccaccia is higher and softer). Remember that "Pizza" and "Pita" have the same root. Though my inlaws (lazio area) call any cake a "pizza" even a chocolate cake with frosting!

Further north, I believe in the pianura padana (the flat plains around the po - or maybe emilia or romagna only, not sure) you get a "piadina" which is like a pita, but not as bready. Some places have it "filled" usually meaning cut in half and a filling put inside.

If you want to know what is like wonton, then just think of ravioli, tortelli, tortellini, and the like. And of course, manicotti. But at that point you are getting very far away from the idea of a rolled sandwich!
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