Banned foods (9)

[Blueicus]

If their meat is inedible due to toxins then why are we allowed to get magret de canard, which is basically meat from foie gras raised ducks?

[RPMcMurphy]

www.NoVeal.org is horrible too......

...but I love me some veal. Problem is, the reason PETA doesn't pick on it...is its something they have no chance with....most of PETA is a bunch of mis-directed college kids with no real direction in life, who don't live in the real, horrible, world, and they need justification of "something" so they pick easy targets to tackle rather than REAL issues....they could give a **** about the geese, they care about self gratification. (most)

[Ninja_59]

I love foie gras, theres other things worse happening in this world right now( but that would be in the late nite thread ).

[dxt178]

I didn't and don't mean to take this thread off-topic, I'm also new 'round here so I don't want to ruffle feathers (pun very much intended), but I do want to make a final point. I am perfectly fine with just a slightly larger liver produced not by force feeding but by slightly overfeeding, I am perfectly fine with a small one by totally normal means... it isn't the method of creating it which I enjoy, it is the end result.

I have seen them willfully be fed, sure it may just be a learned/trained response... who knows I can't ask them. The end result is that most meat raised for consumption isn't frollicking around all day with nary a care in the world. They are penned, fed (essentially force fed), and slaughtered. Same thing here. My gripe is that what is next? PETA thinks everyone should be vegan, so they start a terror campaign on all meat serving establishments and ignorant politicians ban it. The answer is simple, if you don't like it, don't eat it. Don't patronize restaurants that serve it, tell your friends and associates your view and to not go there. If they can't survive on the business from folks like myself, then they will naturally give in. To artificially create that decision for me though, and to damage property and spread fear is NOT OK.

[allie]

dxt178, I see exactly where you're coming from. First it's foie gras, then it's chicken because they're kept in small enclosures, next is veal, then all beef, etc. Oh and let's not forget mass farming to feed the growing population because that takes away the natural habitat of some squirrel or insect. The list could go on and on.

Cigarettes was mentioned. I can't tell you how many times I've heard people complain about someone's cigarette smoke giving them a headache but tell that same person that their bottle of perfume they put on that morning, gives you a headache and makes you want to vomit and they get all worked up about it being their freedom of choice to wear that perfume....isn't it the smoker's choice to have a cigarette and expose them to second hand smoke?

The frightening part of banning anything is where do you draw the line? What goes next? What is the point of claiming to live in the land of the free when those personal freedoms are slowly being taken away one by one and people don't think about what may be next. The majority of people I talk to, only think about a freedom being taken away if it directly involves them. Sooner or later, something you love to eat or do in your own time will be taken away from you because of some well-meaning health police.

[Brexs]

What a hypocrite. You don't like torture, but you are fine with killing the f***in thing? A "humane" way of killing is an oxymoron. I eat meat and love it. Enjoy the fruits of the earth will ya?

[dxt178]

AHA! We can now change that list to 8 banned foods! Just today (of all crazy coincidences) Chicago has realized their mistake and has repealed the ban on Foie! I'm too new to be able to post URLs, so check the suntimes.

Now, as soon as Le Pommier brings it back to the menu I will be able to once again enjoy French food in Pittsburgh!

[firerose0801]

Originally Posted by foodnfoto

One could say the same thing about marijuana, or smoking cigarettes indoors, or Crisco in biscuits.
Get over it an get some perspective. Foie gras is just not that important to get all worked up about whether you can eat it or not.

I do say the same thing about all of those (except for the smoking indoors without a separately ventilated room...for the obvious problems that it causes other peoples health)!!! I have a serious problem with how many things are banned, particularly when the rationale is that it is "for our own good." People are generally competent enough to make their own decisions about their health, and should be treated accordingly. I at least understand the bans that are comming from an animal rights perspective (ie-the shark fins and, while I am incredibly sad about the fois gras...but still at least get the reasoning behind it); though, I don't know how much I agree with them... but this is seriously out of hand and I am really annoyed.

Sorry for the rant.

[greyeaglem]

Originally Posted by kuan

Yellow cake mix. That should be banned too.

What's wrong with yellow cake mix? How else you gonna make a lemon cake? Jeez, next you'll want to ban Jello, and then what will Minnesota do for a state salad? Seriously, I stopped listening to people tell me what I should and shouldn't eat back in the '80s when Harvard and Yale each released a study on coffee ON THE SAME DAY, one saying it caused cancer, the other saying it prevented it. The only thing either study proved as far as I'm concerned is that no one really knows what they're talking about. They used to say coconut oil was the worst oil there was, but now all the health food/organic food people are saying how great it is for you. Then everybody was on the low cholesterol bandwagon. No butter or animal fats, you should eat margarine and vegetable shortening. Now that trans fats are banned in certain places and vegetable shortening can't be used- guess what- they're going back to butter, coconut oil and lard. Not that I particularly see anything wrong with those products, I just find it amusing. And now that everyone is demonizing smokers, I would like to point out that you will sustain more lung damage hanging over a deep fryer inhaling the oil vapor or working a char broiler than you ever will from smoking cigarettes. And don't even get me started on inhaling the cajun seasoning everyone has to have caked on everything now. Can't imagine that's any good for you, but hey, it's politically correct so no one's out there banning that s**t so I don't have to inhale it. I just have to wear a sheetrocker's mask when I'm on the broiler. Not comfortable, but it sort of works.

[OahuAmateurChef]

Here's that foie gras ban lift article: Chicago Sun-times

The alderman whom Mayor Daley derisively calls Joe "Foie Gras" Moore (49th) now knows how the geese and ducks feel.
Two years after the City Council banned the liver delicacy made by jamming a steel pipe down a bird’s esophagus, Daley essentially did the same to Moore on the City Council floor.

By a vote of 37-6, the foie gras ban that Daley claims made Chicago an international laughingstock was repealed, thanks to a legislative end-run that set a new standard for violating protocol and rolling over the opposition...