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07-01-2009, 04:17 PM
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| | Bay leaves, take them out, or crumple them up and mix em in? Are bay leaves suppose to be taken out? That's how I've always used them but I've seen a couple people crush them up and using them like they would a spice like basil or oregano.
What is the correct way to use bay leaves?  TIA
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07-01-2009, 04:30 PM
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07-01-2009, 04:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Just Jim | Thanks! Looks like I should stick with whole. | 
07-01-2009, 04:44 PM
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| | Yeah -- Those things can be lethal. I'm forever inserting instructions to remove them before serving into recipes I work on.
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07-01-2009, 04:53 PM
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| | For serving to guests, remove. I usually leave them in when I'm cooking at home. My wife started a tradition with the kids of whoever gets the bay leaf gets a wish. So now they all want bay leaves.
You can remove the stem and powder them in a grinder/mortar & pestle or even buy them powdered though they lose flavor fast. Some charcuterie uses this and some times I use a bit of ground bay as a final correction in a soup or stew.
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07-01-2009, 05:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Suzanne Yeah -- Those things can be lethal. I'm forever inserting instructions to remove them before serving into recipes I work on. | I bought a spice rack, and it came with the crumpled ones, I'm going to dump those out and put whole ones in. | 
07-02-2009, 06:40 AM
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Originally Posted by abefroman I bought a spice rack, and it came with the crumpled ones, I'm going to dump those out and put whole ones in. | Take them out as they are not digestible and the body cannot break them down
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07-02-2009, 09:02 AM
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| | I take them out (I always count how many I put in), but have lately been thinking of grinding up the dried ones and using them like other ground dried spices. If I could get fresh - I'd prefer them. Love the flavour they impart for soups, stews, casseroles etc. Soooo good with lamb.
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07-02-2009, 11:35 PM
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| | I worked at an Indian restaurant that would blend up stewed bay leaves in the sauce, ad as a mix in Garam Masala (as stated i the linked thread above). They are't poisoous and are only picked out because they are tough and dry. When they are blended in they add a depth of flavour that can be quite intoxicating.
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07-03-2009, 01:57 AM
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| | On the link, i noticed someone (don;t remember who) said they heard of someone choking on a bay leaf and dying.
A little perspective - i think there is probably not a single thing we eat that hasn;t killed someone. You can die of a chicken bone, but we don;t remove the bones from the roast chicken; you can die of any smallish piece of food that you swallow whole and goes the wrong way, but we don;t puree all the food we serve to avoid that. So, yes, you could also choke to death on a bay leaf.
But bay leaf is not pleasant to get in your teeth and on your tongue when it's in small pieces with their sharp edges, which is reason enough to either remove them or blend them really to dust. And the damage to the digestive track, i guess that is another consideration, not true of other foods (unless your guests like to chew and swallow their chicken bones!)
As for the egg shell damaging the intestine (from the linked thread) - I imagine the acid in the stomach would dissolve an egg shell alm,ost instantly (since even vinegar will dissolve egg shells, and stomach acid is much stronger, something not true of bay leaves), At least it would soften the edges - so unless we're talking about damage to the esophagus, i tend to think that the story about them perforating the intestine is unreliable - but then i have no hard data on that.
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07-03-2009, 07:49 AM
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| | Because I want the dining experience for me and my guests to be as pleasant as possible, I always use whole bay leaves, and remove them before serving the dish. So whether leaving them in poses a danger becomes a non-issue.
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07-03-2009, 11:10 PM
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| | Although I've read a few times to crumble and leave in, I always just use for flavor and take out.
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