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Old 02-22-2001, 01:07 PM
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Papa....I have a question about olive oil. Is it really necessary to buy different oils for different cooking reasons? Like premium extra virgin for dipping, tasting, then another for sauteeing/frying (light), and another for salad dressing?

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Old 02-22-2001, 02:09 PM
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I do.... why heat an extra virgin cold press oil!!!
I probably have 5 olive oils and each has a different purpose/flavor.
Spanish is light and fruity pale yellow
Extra Virgin....salads
Light for saute
reg has a heavier flavor yet still for cooking
The good stuff is to finish a dish with a drizzle of flavor
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Old 02-22-2001, 03:17 PM
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Shroom...I have oodles of olive oils...I thought that extra virgin must be the best and I used it for everything, then read an ad that suggested you use different olive oil varieties depending on what you were cooking. So I did buy the different types and have been using them as suggested..but didn't know if it was a marketing ploy.

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Old 02-22-2001, 03:53 PM
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Cooks Illustrated had an article about a year and a half ago or so on olive oils. They wound up saying that Colavita had a better flavor than a lot of the other much more expensive oils. I started using Colavita (although it is not "real cheap"). I think it is just fine for salads. I ususally use the cheaper stuff for cooking. Trader Joe's has a great deal on their own brands and they are just fine for cooking as far as I am concerned.

Just as Cooks Illustrated found out, my experience with some of the pricier oils has been that they are not as good as the Colavita. So, I am using some of these pricier oils for ordinary cooking.

I think olive oil is like wine...you don't necessarily get a better product when you pay a premium price.

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Old 02-22-2001, 08:17 PM
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Olive oil in any flavor is not cheap. Crudeau is right. His basic is a great choice. But to know your olive oil is to know your olives. Like knowing your wines. What flavor you want will determine the olive you choose. There are olievette, small olives, that give a different flavor from large olive. There are more mature oils, virgin oils and regular oils. If you're unsure of your oil, taste the olive. If you can't taste the olive, ask to test the oil. I buy all my olive oil from Tony's Deli and Mama Carmengella has no problem letting me taste it before I buy. She wanna make sure I lika the oil!
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Old 02-22-2001, 08:19 PM
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Oh yeah. And don't ever store your olive oil in light. Whether or not the bottle in which it is stored is clear or otherwise. Olive oil is heat and light sensitive. Store it sealed in a cool (not fridge) dark place.
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How many times have you wondered about why some olive oils come in clear bottles where you can see their color and some come in dark glass bottles?

The following information has been provided by Italian research scientists concerning the components of olive oil that provide great health benefits, are not found in the same abundance in other oils, contribute to its organoleptic qualities and enduring storage capacity and can be lost if subjected to light which makes proper storage of olive oil an important issue.

Olive oil is a very complex mixture of components which affect its stability. Research has shown that while polyphenols are important, tocopherols, phytosterols, and particularly avenasterol contribute to the olive oil’s antioxidant activity. While the polyphenols have been shown to be antioxidants, some polyphenols are better antioxidants than others, so the antioxidant effects do not simply reflect the total amount of polyphenols but rather the levels of those with the more potent antioxidant effects. It is possible that some olive oils may have lower amounts of these more potent antioxidants even though the total polyphenol levels are high. Some antioxidants can, under certain conditions, act as prooxidants thus increasing oxidation. This is why you should avoid clear olive oil bottles and purchase olive oil in dark glass bottles instead, and you should store your olive oil away from light and high temperatures. Many experts believe that olive oil sold in clear bottles and stored on the top shelf of a supermarket under strong lights lose some of their profound health benefits and flavor after being subjected to these conditions for a period of time.

Olive oils with a high polyphenols rate have a long preservation capacity. Polyphenols are antioxidant components and they are recognized as protective substances. Many experts believe that polyphenol contents in olive oil can indicate its quality and its real value.

"In olive oil, a high polyphenols rate is most important to preserve the integrity and benefits of the oil and to prevent ranking [deterioration/rancid quality]. We can say that phenolic substances, and not tocopherols, are the right inhibitors in this fat matter, and found more in olive oil rather than in seed oils. In fact, it has been determined that there exists a positive correlation between the polyphenols rate and the oxydation stability of virgin olive oils. It has also been noticed that a positive correlation exists also between polyphenols rate (especially phenolic acids) and organoleptic characters of the oil. " (Vitagliano M., Industrie Agrarie, UTET, Torino, 1982, pag. 664)

"The phenolic patrimony is the most precious characteristic of virgin olive oil, which is the only vegetal fat in which polyphenols are abundant. Such substances, which contribute to its typical ‘fruttato’ aroma as well as its ‘piccante’ and bitter taste, have a great antioxydant power. The extra virgin oil, thanks to these components, is the most preservable fat and the one with the highest biological value. For these reasons, in olive oils the polyphenols level determination represents one of the most significant analyses aiming to the determination of quality parameters." (AA.VV. Extravergine, Manuale per conoscere l'olio di oliva, Slow Food Editore, Bra, 2000, pag. 94)
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Old 02-23-2001, 08:08 AM
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Dear Deb:

Thank you for asking me a most interesting question which challenges the researcher and artist in each one of us.

I found your question so inspiring that I decided to write a new article which I posted with the heading "How many olive oils do we need, anyway?".

I hope that my article sheds some light on your question.

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Old 02-23-2001, 08:27 AM
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Thanks everyone...and Papa, just read your other article, much appreciated. My olive oil notes in my computer are growing <s>.

Funny, I love to buy oils and vinegars and I do store the oils in a cool, darkened area of my kitchen (not the fridge though). I bought this really fun olive oil/balsamic vinegar cruet (when you put the vinegar in the cruet it goes into a cluster of grape shaped area) at a Farmer's Market in SF (this man selling the olive oil was from the Modesto area, I thought his oils were great), anyway, I put my best oil in this cruet for making salads, and leave it on the counter in full light, etc. Just realized after reading these threads I'm not doing justice to it (the olive oil) by leaving it out like that.
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