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Old 06-02-2002, 10:51 AM
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Default Grape Leaves: This is the season

Many Mediterranean recipes need grape leaves

Now is the season to collect them. If you are close to a vinyard do not loose this opportunity.

Grape leaves are used primarly in dolmades and they are a perfect " wrapping material" for many things.
I think I have posted my recipe of the "Lamp of the Wine Grower" which is lamp wrapped with grape leaves and stuffed with cheese.

Also it's a good opportunity to collect tendrils as well.

I do not know if I use the right term.

In Greece they are very popular. We pickle them using garlic and we use them in salads and in many hor'd'oeuvres

I think I will post a new recipe that you may want to take a look and make your remarks
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Ingredients :
-2 chicken breasts
-2-3 gloves of garlic
-1/2 tblsp of chopped chilli peppers
-2 red peppers ( sweet) chopped in strings
-1 cup of feta cheese mashed with a fork
-4 tsp of cappers
-8 fresh wine leaves -blanhed
-1 cup of white wine
-1/2 chicken broth ( this is not obliigatory)
Olive oil

Part the chicken breasts in two pieces
Mix together the olive oil-garlic and red pepper.
Spread this marinade to the meat.
Wrap it in plastic wrap and freeze overnight.

Sauter the peppers in 3-4 tbsps of olive oil, until soft
Remove them from the pan and set the oil apart

Just before serving the meal.

Wrap the meat in the grape leaves
Fill the breasts with the mashed feta cheese , cappers and 2-3 stripes of the pepper.
Roll the breast, wrapping it with the leave.
Hold the roll together with a toothpick.
In a pan sauter the rolled breasts using the olil you used for the red peppers.
When they get a shlight brown color, low the heat, add the wine , cover and leave it to cook for 30 minutes.
Add water or the chicken broth if neccessary.

Serve with french fries or talliatelli

Enjoy
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Athenaues,

Nice recipe...

for the chicken breast, did you mean to refridgerate over night..or freeze as you said?

I have a nice vegetarian recipe if you would like to see it
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Thanks CC

Yes, refrigerate

and why not post a vegeterian recipe since I am not the one who is going to eat it

Is there a tofu chicken????
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Ok Athenaues....

I'll post it for the people whom may enjoy it...

You may even like it (add some lamb)

2 cups vegetable stock
1 cup brown rice
1 teaspoon kosher salt
1/3 cup grated radish
1/3 cup chopped scallions
1/2 cup celery minced
3/4 cup chopped fresh mint
2 + tablespoons evoo
2 teaspoons white wine vinager
2 + teaspoons lemon juice
1/3 cup currants or sultanas
1/4 cup pine nuts
fresh milled black pepper
36 grape leaves
around 100 chive stalks
Bring the stock to a boil over medium heat, add the rice and salt. reduce the heat to a simmer covered tightly for 45 minuts. When the stock is absorbed, remove the rice from the heat and fluff with a fork.In a large bowl, combine the rice and all ingredients except the grape leaves, chives and a little olive oil and lemon juice. Toss well. To make the rolls, have a bowl of hot water (for your fingers). Preheat oven to 350f. One at a time, spread the grape leaves on a flat, dry suface. (remove any stems) spread 1 1/2 tablespoons of the rice mixture at the base (near the stem)Fold the outer leaf edges in, then roll up. To tie, take three five inch chive sticks and briefly soak them in the hot water to make more pliable. Using the three stalks as one, tie them around the grape leaves. arrange the completed grape leaves in a medium cassarole, drizzle with olive oil and lemon juice. Cover with foil and bake for 10 minutes

That's it..pretty simple, but what to serve with these tiny morsels?

From Andrew weil and Rosie Daley's "The healthy Kitchen"

Published in the Athens-Banner-Herald on Wednesday,4/24/2002
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When I was in Santorini we used to roast a whole leg of lamb on the bone (slowly). We would let it cool and then cut thin slices of lamb. We would put on a sizzle platter or baking sheet one or two grape leaves we would then put some lamb slice down and then put some whipped feta with tomatoes on top of the lamb. After this we would cover the feta mix with a few more slices of lamb and then finally cover everything with a few more grape leaves. We would bake this in the oven and serve it with some fava.

Great dish and great flavors.

Athenaeus is also the time when they collect caper leaves? We used to use them all the time but I have yet to find them hear in the states.
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Wow and how did you call the dish?
Did you serve it for kleftiko?
Was this a "napoleon"...??
It sounds fascinating!!!!!

Did you wrap the whole thing in baking sheet??

As for capper leaves : YES!!!

There is a new store with various products of this kind and I bought a jar of capper leaves and another one of tendrils .


Thanks a lot cape chef!! What is easy for you is in the world of fantasy for many of us, including me
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Nothing exciting, it was simply put as "Lamb wrapped in grape leaves" on the menu. I suppose it could be classified as napoleon but I think it was more of a wrapp since the entire dish was wrapped in grape leaves. It was very good which is why I guess they kept it on the menu for as long as they did.

I must confess I do not know what kleftiko is?


As for caper leaves I did a really wonderful dish with them while I was there. Using a nice thick piece of salmon I covered it with caper leaves just like scales on a fish. A little pat of butter on the top and roasted it until the salmon was finished. While it was cooking I took some of the little red tomatoes that grow on Santorini (similar to our cherry tomatoes but they have a more intense flavor) and but them in a blender with some olive oil, salt, pepper and fresh garlic. I blended this on high for a minute or so. When the salmon was done I served it with the tomato sauce served it in pool of the tomato sauce. It was a very fresh tasting dish.

By the way does anyone know where I could get some caper leaves in the states?
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Kleftiko is the dish I was telling you about it the Wrap it thread.

It's meat, usually lamp,stuffed with cheese and garlic that is wrapped in paper and baked in the oven in low heat.

The original kleftiko comes from the period of the ottoman occupation where "kleftes" , Greek guerillas, were baking the lamp in a hole in the soil after having it wrapped in the skin of the lamp.
They covered the hole with soil so as the smoke doesn't tell off their hiding places

Very nice dish, typical Peloponessean
In Arcadia, they call it Gkioulbasti.
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How about the leaves of the vines growing on the side of the house? Are they edible?
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Athenaeus , Nicko , Cape Chef , enough your killin me here . This is really good eats . I worked for a greek couple as a young chef and the stuffed grape leaves were out of this world . The Lamb
( sorry CC ) , the Feta , the Capers , oh what great flavors . If anybody out there has not tried this please do as your palate will love you for it . Thanks , Doug
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How about the leaves of the vines growing on the side of the house? Are they edible?
Of course they are
I say of course. I mean if they are the same plants yes they are.
Do you have them Isa up there?
I am surprised !
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I wonder if wild grape leaves are ok? Here, in southeastern Ontario, grape grows wild all over. I have noticed that the tiny grapes are just forming. Is it too late?
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Unfortunately not Athenaeus but I have friends with lots of vines around their house. I'm sure they wouldn't miss a few leaves....
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I made stuffed grape leaves today....
cooked fragrant rice (Stansil's out of La was what I used)
sauteed onion and garlic
thyme
currants
chevre
pinenuts
parsley
green onions
lemon zest
fold cover with lemon slices, put lemon/water in base of pan and simmer for 45 minutes covered.....was really great, hadn't made them in years thanks for the thread....
We had vineyards in Mo. when do you pick leaves and tendrils?
I love the thought of pickling...what a fun presentation if they stay curly.
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