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11-01-2002, 11:55 AM
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| | Caramel vs. Carmel I remember hearing on food network sometime ago that there was a difference between "carmel" (melted sugar) and "caramel" (melted sugar and butter). Can anyone confirm or deny this?
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11-01-2002, 01:36 PM
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| | I always thought "carmel" was a town in California of which Clint Eastwood was once mayor. Drives me nuts when people interchange these words. Don't do it in my bake shop.
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11-01-2002, 05:08 PM
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| | Personally I dont think there is anything different! They are both melted sugar products. I am a future chef & I watch the Food Network all the time! I have learned that Its just how people adapt language, just like people say pecan differently or tomato, even potato. Either way they are all delicious things, and its all just how you are brought up to say things.
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11-02-2002, 07:47 AM
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| | I've never heard of there being two types of caramel.
But if I want my caramelized sugar to become a caramel syrup I add heavy cream (or you could use h20). I don't know of anyone who uses butter alone to make a syrup out of their caramelized sugar.
Also isn't there a place at www.foodtv where you can ask them questions? Maybe they can confirm or deny your question.....?
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11-02-2002, 09:07 AM
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| | Quote: Originally posted by thebighat I always thought "carmel" was a town in California of which Clint Eastwood was once mayor. Drives me nuts when people interchange these words. Don't do it in my bake shop. | Absolutely! My sister lives there.
"Carmel" is nothing but a mispronunciation, when it comes to food. Part of the problem is that people say "carmelization" instead "car Amelization" -- I'm guilty of that, too. But cooked sugar is caramel is cooked sugar. | 
11-02-2002, 01:26 PM
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| | American Heritage Dictionary details that it can be pronounced with either three or two syllables. Jacques just pronounced it with three, not 30 seconds ago on PBS. He seems to be using the terms interchangeably as well....
For what it's worth.
-Andrew
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11-02-2002, 02:27 PM
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| | Read my lips--there is no word "carmel", spelled with a small letter "c", used to describe a cooked sugar syrup. It does not exist in the English language. We also have the American Heritage dictionary and it does indeed allow the previously mentioned two-syllable pronunciation, but the word is always "caramel".
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11-02-2002, 02:33 PM
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| | I'm sorry, I thought the original post was discussing alternate pronounciation of the same word rather than two separately spelled words. Kinda like "learned" and "learnED".
Didn't mean to perpetuate that "carmel" was its own word. I've never seen any such spelling, nor has my wife (post-graduate english work) nor my bros-in-law (professional restauranteurs). Freaky!
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11-08-2002, 06:33 AM
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| | Where did the A go Bit late to this because I was visiting, among other places, Carmel. The incorrect spelling of this word drives me nuts (along with recipie - strange pie indeed!). Carmelization is the process of filling a small town with art and antique shops and nothing to do with cooking AT ALL. Pronounce it how you will but caramel always has two 'a's. | 
11-17-2002, 07:22 PM
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| | We are here to help "el caramelo" Hola!!!
Maybe you have doubts between:
Caramel; sugar & water
Sauce Caramel: the caramel when at room temperature, cream is incorporated in the "melange" to form a caramel sauce
Caramelo
Salsa de caramelo
PS That stuff about Caramel in English doesn't sound to Kosher to me.
Well, OLe!!!
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11-17-2002, 07:25 PM
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| | ...too Kosher to me.... Sorry OOOOOHHHHHH!!!
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