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09-12-2000, 07:32 AM
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| | Anybody care about the election Don't know about the rest of you but I always get a little tired of all the campaigns and election hoopla. I am big on getting someone good into office. Any thoughts on who are next president will be? Looks like it will be Gore. | 
09-12-2000, 08:24 AM
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| | It will be if people VOTE. Biggest problem is that people don't, or they forget they can vote absentee. If you're a busy person and may miss polling hours, get an absentee ballot and get it done as soon as they'll give you an absentee ballot. No excuses! It grinds my beans that more people complain than bother to vote. | 
09-12-2000, 08:33 AM
| | | elections are harder here in the south (though our very own W is in the running). the language barrier seems to turn many people away, because it seems like the candidates are only concerned with the anglo, english speaking crowds all the time.
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09-12-2000, 01:36 PM
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| | As a woman, mother and breathing person, I would like to see a president who knows when the micraphone is on! "Big Time"
Okay, george is a fun guy to party with but I don't think he's baked enough to be a stable leader for any length of time. There's that little thing of Capital Punishment and his record with women and children in the state of Texas. And Chany and his voting record, or rather what voting record? Two words to Dick, Absentee Ballot
My vote is with Log. I mean Al. I mean maybe.
I'd go with Ralph but.........
What is the deal with Rat? any one see the commercial?
Politics, such a fun game!
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09-12-2000, 04:07 PM
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| | I find it amazing how many folks believe the press and spinmasters ...
Everyone becomes an expert on the State of Texas because the Gore spinmasters release a 30 sec soundbite about how mistreated the women and children are. No mention that a BIG part of the problem is illegal immigration that the Federal government has NOT been able to control...Seems that Gore is a part of Texas' problems but refuses to take responsibility for his and the governments lack of action.
I find it very hard to believe that by raising my taxes in order to keep the drug companies fat and happy, as Gore proposes, will do squat for the elderly today. It will put folks in my age group (40s) into the weeds when we retire. Feed the drug companies now and they will become even more greedy in the future.
The constitution is under constant attack by those who would have the government protect us from ourselves. Clinton/Gore have done nothing to stop this attack. If anything they have been in favor of the constitutions degradation.
Not sure if there is a Supreme Court seat opening in the next 4 years, death is a mighty tricky thing to predict, but I sure don't want Gore to have a say in the candidate selection.
Worrying about slip-ups by politicos is folly. At least what Bush said was his opinion. Beats Pres. Kennedy standing in front of the world and calling himself a pastry or Gore saying that he created the internet.
If this sounds like a slam on Gore and a vote for Bush it isn't. I am still undecided. Good chance I'll do what I have in the past and pull a Libertarian ticket.. BTW, the Lib Party's candidate is named Harry Browne, not that you'll hear that name in the press
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09-12-2000, 06:19 PM
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| | I thought we weren't supposed to talk about politics at dinner. | 
09-12-2000, 10:51 PM
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| | I'm with you, Cremaster! 
Let's talk about this later, over after dinner drinks and cigars!
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09-13-2000, 04:49 AM
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| | i will be very honest about my knowledge of the US political scene, which is not much. I do know however, that Al Gore's wife - Tipper
has a lot to do with parental advisory labels on music albums and has a few problems for Jello Biafra.
How would this affect artistic freedom if Mrs Gore's husband was the chief executive?. | 
09-13-2000, 08:22 AM
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| | Personally, I would have liked to see McCain make it this far, but alas.... | 
09-13-2000, 09:12 AM
| | | C'mon, is anyone really voting for Gore? This is the guy who said "President Clinton will be judged by history as perhaps the greatest of all time". Are you kidding?
He's a crook and for thus of us with kids, he is an embarrassment.
I think Gore was a decent guy who now is a Clinton jock-sniffer. It's time for a change. | 
09-13-2000, 04:36 PM
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| | my love and distain for clowns has met it's match, politicians.
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09-15-2000, 02:31 AM
| | | Just FYI, Satchmo:
YES, some of us are "really" voting for Al Gore.
I find him far too conservative on many issues (capital punishment, "star wars", school vouchers), but he's better than the alternative.
Kathleen | 
09-15-2000, 08:22 AM
| | | OK, if Al Gore is too CONSERVATIVE for you, we have a problem. I don't think we are gonna agree on much. But hey, that's cool.
Let me only remind you that Mr. Conservative is in favor of partial birth abortion and an agressive gay agenda including the likely advancement of civil unions through his judicial appointments. Both of these very liberal opinions are far out of line with the vast majority of Americans.
Are you considering voting for Nader? | 
09-15-2000, 08:27 AM
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| | Did someone say "Star Wars"? | 
09-15-2000, 12:37 PM
| | | Hi again, Satchmo! I'm not saying Gore is conservative on EVERYTHING, just that there are issues where I'm very disappointed in his stance. Capital punishment being the most significant to me, since I'm adamantly opposed to it.
I know late term abortion ("partial birth" being a very inflammatory term) is a very sticky moral issue, and I can see how many people believe it is wrong and ought to be illegal. However as it comes down to one's definition of "life", "autonomy" and "individual", and since these concepts are not black and white, I belive any attempt to legislate this issue is wrong. If we could somehow remove the religious aspect from the discussion, I believe we could come to some consensus from a scientific perspective - however I doubt that will happen any time soon!
And though I haven't actually heard Gore advocate civil unions for gay couples, if you are right about that it would make my day. After Clinton's disgraceful abandonment of his support for gay rights, it would be wonderful if Gore would take up the reins and establish a way for the system to recognize the legitimacy of the love shared between gay and lesbian couples.
At least we can agree to disagree, right?!
Kathleen
PS I like many things about Nader, but I don't believe he is qualified to be President. I would possibly vote for him for a lower level post. I have voted for Green Party candidates in local elections.
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