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Old 09-13-2001, 01:31 PM
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thank you mr. sinclair for your article many years ago that seems to have helped some of the surviors of tuesdays attacks.

please see article posted: http://www.cheftalkcafe.com/cgi-loca...c&f=9&t=000450

new york was reduced to a hellish hole filled with the souls of the innocent.
I have spoken with an air traffic controller, stock brokers,
firefighters, families of the missing.

i fear we have all lost friends
and family in the most profound way. i cannot imagine what will happen next.
no one, no country, no tribe, no human should have to go through this again.
no one should support policies that cause such things. there are better ways to share the planet.

nyc has orderd 11,000 body bags, i understand more or less may be needed.
my wish is to require non at all and start tuesday morning all over again.
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Old 09-13-2001, 01:35 PM
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A friend sent me that earlier today Makes ya feel proud. I heard that at a changing of the gaurd at Buckinham Palace today they played the Star Spangled Banner.
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Old 09-13-2001, 01:55 PM
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I also recieved that e mail from 3 people.
I stand proud.

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what a terrible thing has happened and yes I falt sick when i heard but this is a cookery site not some blow your own trumpet american tribute dont forget here in England thousands of innocent people have died thruogh terrorism from the IRA which is sponsored mainly from the states I know its sad and im as angry as you all are but please can we go back to food talk anyone cooked chilli pineapple ????
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Old 09-13-2001, 02:27 PM
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Pompeyams, it's true that there's suffering everywhere, and no country is completely innocent of blame. But if this is a community it's going to reflect people's feelings. There are always general topic forums in Cheftalk and I hope it stays that way, because then we get to know and understand each other 360 degrees.
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Old 09-13-2001, 03:48 PM
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I am offended by your remarks Pompeyams. In the span of an hour more people lost their lives on tuesday than at Pearl Harbour and on D-Day combined! Forgive us for being effected by it!
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Old 09-13-2001, 03:59 PM
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Pompey:

This is a cooking site -- but the "anything goes" discussion section. Please familiarize yourself with the site guidelines before you risk being rude again.

As for your laughable assertion that America is the country that carries the lion's share of blame for Irish terror deaths ... awww forget it, I don't have the energy.
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Old 09-13-2001, 04:20 PM
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pompeyams,
You have missed the point.

what we in America just went through, no one should have to go through and you having gone through WWII and the IRA should know this more than anyone.

PS late night cafe is free discourse not food related.
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Old 09-13-2001, 04:37 PM
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Pompeyams,

I am truly disgeraged by your thoughts.
This site stands for everything American and free in this world.
We must never compare one persons horror to another.
I was thinking today how lucky I am to have such a respectful and loving group of people to vent with.
God bless America.
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Compassion...

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Pompeyams,

I wish you grew up before posting again!
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Old 09-13-2001, 05:17 PM
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<STRONG>not some blow your own trumpet american tribute dont forget here in England thousands of innocent people have died thruogh terrorism from the IRA which is sponsored mainly from the states </STRONG>
How dare you?
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It should be noted, though, that this tribute was originally written in 1973, and is not fully relevant today (as would be even more evident if the above really did contain the full text; it has been edited quite heavily).

Where are those "lands that are gloating over America's troubles"? None of the countries mentioned in this tribute is,that's for sure. Which European newspapers are writing about "decadent, warmongering Americans"?

I've been walking around with tears in my eyes (or running down my face) for the last three days, and my thoughts have been with you constantly. Everywhere one goes, people are in shock, devastated, filled with sympathy, and the same is the case all around the world. Thousands and thousands of Icelanders have paid their respect to American victims and American heroes by signing books in the embassy or on websites set up for the purpose. Flags were at half-staff on every public building yesterday and prayers were held in every church. We have offered to send a rescue squad (who has also gone to help "when earthquakes hit distant cities"). We would donate blood if you accepted it. I constantly hear people asking "what can we do to help?" Similar things can be said for every country mentioned in this tribute. Not all the victims were Americans; each and every one of these countries lost people in the WTC or in the airplanes. For instance, hundreds of British lives were lost.

Look, the world is very much different from what it was in 1973, when the tribute was written. Americans may not have had much support or sympathy towards the end of the Vietnam war but they do now, believe me. There are things said in that tribute which may detract from that. I fully understand why many Americans will admire and find solace in this tribute, but you should realize that it is a bitter and undeserved insult for your allies in the rest of the world.

Please accept my deepest sympathy and condolences.
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I have received that article by email several times over the last two days. I haven't decided whether it is a comfort or makes me sadder.

Let us all find peace again.

Tossing hurt back and forth helps none of us heal. Let us all stand together, members of the human race.
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So well said Nancy. Thank you.
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