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11-01-2007, 10:35 PM
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| | whoa Jock, from culinary instructor to science teacher? how's it going?
loads of incredible bakeries in SF area one of my favorite places is Tartine on Guerraro and 19th (?) no sign, just a line.......
Coppola Winery has 300 foraging acres....
Didn't oakville grocery close? Dean and Deluca was disappointing in many aspects, huge store....super selection but alot of produce/etc had obviously spoiled....when it's premium priced there should be no slime/mold.
Copia has restaurants, gardens, great gift shop, fun demos, interesting changing exhibits.
Last time I was in SF visiting a friend who was judging a crab contest in Mendicino...oh my josh, gorgeous country....toook forever to drive the tiny 2 lane road.....stop at a couple of wineries and farmstands along the way.
Russian River is around there....saw a stunning sunset coming out the redwoods into the ocean view, words just can't discribe how beautiful it was. | 
11-01-2007, 11:10 PM
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Originally Posted by shroomgirl Didn't oakville grocery close? Dean and Deluca was disappointing in many aspects, huge store....super selection but alot of produce/etc had obviously spoiled....when it's premium priced there should be no slime/mold. | Did a little google search for this out of fright that Oakville could have closed. They were bought by Dean and Deluca, but D&D say they plan to keep Oakville Grocery as its own brand. I moved from SF back to Chicago in 05 and haven't been that way since, so I guess I can't vouch for the current state of Oakville Grocery. If it hasn't changed, it's worth the visit. | 
11-02-2007, 08:30 AM
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| | hopefully then Oakville will take all D&D's wonderful produce, cheeses and meats and move them....
Time slips away so easily....where did 2007 go? | 
11-02-2007, 08:55 PM
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Originally Posted by shroomgirl
Coppola Winery has 300 foraging acres.... |
When I was last at the winery, Franky was charging $25.00 as an entarnce fee, which Ibelieve also included a wine tasting. You couldn't even park and walk around the grounds without paying the fee. Having been a long time visitor to the winery, and having bought lots of wine there since my first case of Rubicon in 1982, I was quite disappointed with this turn of events. Perhaps the fee has been eliminated - don't know. It's a shame since yjere are many wonderful sights and experiences tobe had at the winery.
Shel | 
11-05-2007, 03:02 PM
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Originally Posted by shroomgirl whoa Jock, from culinary instructor to science teacher? how's it going? | Neither one Shroom. I'm the Facilities Manager.
Jock | 
11-06-2007, 08:39 AM
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| | with alot of food knowledge, and SF go to place info.....
Glad to see you back on the forums. | 
11-06-2007, 10:13 AM
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| | I can't thank everyone enough who's contributed to this thread! Your references to local spots you enjoyed can't be found in most tourist guidebooks or websites. Keep 'em coming! I'm taking notes.
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11-07-2007, 10:55 AM
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| | I've never been to San Francisco. I'd like to go for the food, but I'd also like to see some of the tourist attractions. I would especially like to see a 49ers football game, even though they are not living up to expectations this season. I have been a fan for over 20 years though. | 
11-16-2007, 03:48 AM
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| | Hey, Mezz ...
Here's a place I just found out about : Ubuntu There's a link to the restaurant's web site on the page. Also Ubuntu takes vegetarian cuisine to new heights review includes panoramoc photo ofthe interior.
If you're going to be in Berkeley, you might want to visit the Acme Bakery for choices of some of the better loaves in the area: Acme Bread Co. There's also a bakery in San Fran at the Ferry Building Acme Bread Company . Right next door to the Berkeley bakery, sharing the same parking lot, is a little hole-in-the-wall called Cafe Fanny. Fanny is the name of Alice Waters' daughter, which should give you a hint about the ownership of this little place. Small menu, mostly outdoor seating. It's a joy in the morning to get some fresh-baked, still warm bread or rolls from Acme, grab some OJ or Peets' coffee at the cafe, maybe a wonderful egg dish, and sit outside. A very "Berkeley" scenario and experience. Nothing at all fancy, but everything perfect!
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11-16-2007, 05:09 PM
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| | Thank you, Shel! Cafe Fanny sounds lovely, and the smell of freshly baked bread with a mug of good coffee... great way to ease into the day.
It's being added to my notes.
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11-16-2007, 07:41 PM
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| | Mezz ... I forgot to post the web site link to the café... as you can see, it's really small and simple Cafe Fanny
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11-17-2007, 07:32 AM
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| | Acme bread....there is a fun story behind the originator....he was in college, was it Stanford or Berkley. Making starters and breads in his dorm room....had the passion for baking. Started out at Chez Panisse and then moved on to his own bakery.
I'm trying to remember what year I had Acme bread at CP......it's been at least 15 years and I still remember the fresh searred off tuna nicoise salad with tiny olives on the table to nibble and this incredible chewy, crisp crust gorgeous bread.
Cafe Fanny's cookbook has kid recipes but the one that comes to mind is the granola.....and the fact that Fanny's mom spent an enormous amount of time/energy in packing her lunches. Many of us did for our children too, but Alice went way way beyond.....gotta love her. | 
11-17-2007, 07:45 AM
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Originally Posted by shroomgirl Acme bread....there is a fun story behind the originator ... Acme bread [...] incredible chewy, crisp crust gorgeous bread ... Cafe Fanny's cookbook has kid recipes but the one that comes to mind is the granola | Yeah, that's a pretty well known story around here, but this is a real "bread" town. I love going to the bakery in Berkeley - for such a major player in the bread market, the shop is small, however, as I understand it, it's a 24/7 operation.
I stop at the bakery as often as possible to get fresh baked bread. Not that it can't be had from any number of markets, but the bakery, of course, has everything they make. Some pretty amazing loaves and wonderful rolls - plus it's all organic.
Nothing beter than a fresh roll and a glass of fresh, organic OJ at Fanny's, sitting outside in the warm late morning sun, stricking up conversations with strangers.
The granola is Really Great - and I don't even like granola.
shel
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11-17-2007, 08:10 AM
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| | Ferry Plaza on Sat. mornings has a prolific amount of incredible baked goods...trully a glutton's glutin paradise. Acme has a stall there, Frog Hollow has one of the indoor bakeries, just really top quality baked products at every turn.....even lavendar honey and fresh jersey butter was available too...
Shel, your world is idyllic. I considered living in Berkley or Madison 10 years ago.....STL won out....your thread reminds me why Berkley was one of the three. | 
11-17-2007, 09:25 AM
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Shel, your world is idyllic. I considered living in Berkley or Madison 10 years ago.....STL won out....your thread reminds me why Berkley was one of the three.
| Berkeley's Gourmet Ghetto : A few words and history of the "Ghetto." "... it's a way of approaching life that makes living a true pleasure and deeply connects you to the earth and to other people through the medium of food."
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