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Commenting on the new season has brought me out of hibernation.

To think any one can be an Executive Chef, win $250,000. and has the IQ of a turnip is a slur on the profession.

Being characterized by association, as an Exec. Chef, with brain dead pseudo culinarians and a screaming sabotaging infant with a TV show has forced me to ignore this season’s show.

It is tantamount to placing a riveter on top of the Golden GateBridge on his first day of work.

I am insulted and disgusted by the portrayal of our industry and profession.

Gordon has aged 10 years since the last season...paybacks...****!
i think you mean enfant terrible?
hey, who wouldn't turn down the boatload of money some stupid hollywood producers are paying Ramsey to act like a total arsehole? he is really a totally different person on the BBC shows, which just goes to show you how we Americans demand excess in everything.
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Chef, my souffles are sticking, I am gonna rub the rims with sugar to prevent it!

*Gordon bangs head on prep table repeatedly*

I almost broke down to tears at this point. I am crying up laughing thinking of it now.
Heh yeah that was funnier than all getout!

Seriously when he was assigned souffle he could have at least looked it up in his Larousse or something.
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Keep in mind that this is a reality show first... cooking show far distant second. In its 4th season, we all know what to expect of HK by now. I don't watch it to learn anything or become "enlightened", its merely entertainment. Nothing more, nothing less.
I guess to some extent I understand that point, but apparently I disagree with the idea of ineptness as entertainment. While I am not a sports fan, if I see a game of any kind I prefer to see the two teams go head to head with their best game on, with a cliff hanger of a score right up to the end of the game. If I go to see figure skating performances, I don't go to see the performers flounder around and fall. If I want that, all I need to do is get on the ice myself. In the end reality TV just isn't my cup of tea. HK and Top Chef are the only reality TV shows I have ever watched. Of the two Top Chef is a better show imo. Anyways, thanks for letting me voice my thoughts

A question for you. Do you think it would be possible or feasible to have a show like HK in which the contestants are really bringing their A game?
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I would love to watch some serious culinary competition going on. I gather thats pretty much what top chef is about, but I don't have cable so I cannot watch it. Iron Chef (Japanese version) is probably my favorite cooking show of all time.

I do agree this is possible, and there would probably be far more to learn from a show that went in that direction.
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Doh!! I forgot about the Iron Chef shows. I liked the Japanese version because the competitors frequently came from different countries. The American version; I like the final part where they are presenting their plates and describing each dish. In this part I think chef Batali is very skilled and imo better than most.

Top Chef; I like the challenges they do, especially some of the quick fire challenges i.e the blindfold tasting challenges identifying ingredients or selecting the higher quality ingredient over the lesser quality. I do like the challenges that showcase knife skills as well. The downside of Top Chef is all the little video clips of the contestants whining and sniveling like little kids. Also don't care much for all the F bombs.

Another question if you don't mind. If you were asked to write such a show, what challenges would you evision for the contestants?
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H---s Kitchen could be such a great show if it wasn't so dumbed down. C'mon this is competition for a $1/4 mil. a year-yet I wouldn't offer most of these people a job @ a----b--s.Gordon is smart & obviously personable-How many million $ resteraunts does he run/own. C'mon the guy wears the sweaters his grandma(or wife) makes him!! He is an obviously sweet guy-he has kids(girls-I believe & a wife)I just would like to know how he got those scars on his chin! Kinda sexy!!!!!
Anyone know how the past winners are REALLY doing? That would be a great read!
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Anyone know how the past winners are REALLY doing? That would be a great read!
I believe the season 1 winner was offered the chance to train with Gordon, but had to shortly retire as he was getting his family life (wife & kids) together.

Season 2 winner did not get the EC gig at the Red Rock casino she was promised. Instead she was thrown into one of the casino's restaurants that already had a chef. Her prize was a 1 year contract (I think thats how all of these prizes are), she is no longer there.

Season 3 winner supposedly got an EC gig at the Terra Verde in the Green Valley Ranch, but if you check their website there is a promotional video advertising someone completely different as the Chef of that restaurant.

So far all these prizes seem kinda bogus, 1 year contracts and such. Its no surprise that their contracts don't get renewed as it was pointed out earlier that nobody on the show is really qualified to run a kitchen of the magnitudes they are offering.
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Question Smells Kitchen Or Dawn Of The Dead Wanna Be Chefs

He is really a totally different person on the BBC shows, which just goes to show you how we Americans demand excess in everything.[/quote]

Excess is right!

Ramsey is quite the restaurateur in the Kitchen Nightmares, which I Infinitely prefer to H K .

Having service fall apart, cooks I can’t rely on and the customers ordering pizza delivery because the food is so slow, is a nightmare. Its one I try and avoid every day.

That’s why I cant watch the dawn of the dead wants to be chefs as entertainment. Its excessively stress inducing!!
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I believe the season 1 winner was offered the chance to train with Gordon, but had to shortly retire as he was getting his family life (wife & kids) together.
Not only did he give up the chance to train with Gordon (after moving to the UK to do so), he also sold the restaurant back to Gordon (and that was after Gordon renting it for future HK shows). I personally, thought that was a stupid move on his part. You can have a family and not give up an opportunity like that!

At least that's what I saw on the Season One reunion show or whatever where they showed the shows and then went back and talked to him and the other guy.


I do prefer Kitchen Nightmares on BBC. We watch that almost every evening at 6 pm and sometimes the new shoes on Monday evenings. I've been watching HK this season but am astounded at some of the stupid mistakes. Again, I'm a homecook but I can do a lot of the things they are failing miserably at.
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Seriously when he was assigned souffle he could have at least looked it up in his Larousse or something.
I seriously doubt he has ever heard of Larousse. Considering his comments and actions I would not be the least bit surprised if he is actually a wannabe actor in Hollywood, who casted for the part.
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watch his show "the f word" on BBC america. unbelievably great show. beautiful food shots, really artful camera work. very little shouting, if at all. you see him buying pigs and raising them in his backyard, with his kids, feeding one pig beer to see if when they're slaughtered there is any taste difference. the one i watched last week, he was butchering and cooking live eels. i really can't say enough about that show. it feels nothing like the celebrity chef shite on the food network.
I just started watching this show. This is my must see show. Love his desire to get women in love w/ cooking everyday. I love to cook-cook 3 meals a day. Can always learn new things everyday! This is a great show for @ home chefs as well as profesionals! Nigella just broke the perch(too fat& she is a he!)

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Bobby is actually emerging now as one of the stronger characters.

Raw chicken to kids = no no.
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****'s Kitchen is not a favorite show, but I watch out of loyalty to Gordon who in my opinion is a great great chef.

His shows on the BBC are so entertaining and vastly different than the American versions that are out of control with their dramatic music, pauses, and narration. Gordon hams it up for the Americans. The original version on the BBC is a true account of the relationship he builds with the owners, it's not glamed up and it stays true to the point.

HK is perverse. The souffle guy was a misoginist with too many issues - it was hard to focus on his cooking when all he could do was whine, complain, and blame women for everything. So glad he's gone.

I am not impressed by any of the contestants and I will be deeply disturbed if one comes to work at Maze restaurant (I think that's the prize that is promised) as it happens to be my favorite restaurant!!!
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Default American Idol meets Medium.

The fact that unskilled labor can work in a kitchen at such a level, earn such a stupifying salary and end up running Gordons new L.A. Restaurant, in its unreality basis, is just like American television.
Not based in reaity, entertainment(for some) and has a villan you love to hate.
Theres the recipe, American Idol meets Medium,or Dancing with the Stars with no lead!

Whats Maze restaurant?

I still maintain it demeans the industry, as a career professional.

Spot on as a black spot!
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I find it interesting that the last two episodes were not aired on our TV system. We have a satellite system. One of the other reality shows was aired instead.
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