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03-29-2009, 02:13 PM
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Originally Posted by shroomgirl the last 5 segments will be supposedly slipped in somewhere, sometime......bummer!
Apparently the public that watches food tv didn't get into it, I found it more entertaining than ****'s kitchen......Top Chef is still a much better show to see talent. |
****'s kitchen is horrible... its one of the worst 'cooking' shows on television. its just bad. the ppl they find are even worse, its like the purposely pick the bottom of the barrel. its almost embarassing to watch them operate. | 
03-29-2009, 05:10 PM
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| | It goes along with all the reality shows... | 
03-29-2009, 05:30 PM
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| | ...agreed... | 
03-29-2009, 06:56 PM
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Originally Posted by iconoclast ****'s kitchen is horrible... its one of the worst 'cooking' shows on television. its just bad. the ppl they find are even worse, its like the purposely pick the bottom of the barrel. its almost embarassing to watch them operate. | Well, if they were "competent", would it be worth watching? | 
03-29-2009, 07:51 PM
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| | from an eductional POV yes... from an entertaining POV prolly not. top chef is a nice combination of both, they take in a few drama mamas in for the entertainment aspect but have a few that really are there bc theyre good at what they do. | 
03-30-2009, 09:17 AM
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| | hulu carries the shows.....not all of top chef but some....all of chopping block, multi seasons of ****'s kitchen | 
03-30-2009, 10:43 AM
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Originally Posted by PeteMcCracken Well, if they were "competent", would it be worth watching? | Yes, it would be. I'm sick of watching shows where people of the lowest common denominator are featured. The only really great show we'll ever have is Jeopardy - not that I watch it that often but when I do I'm amazed at the contestant's knowledge!
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03-30-2009, 11:01 AM
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| | i think most ppl who are already successful in their career arent going to degrade themselves on television or risk losing the business they already have for 15mins of fame. | 
03-30-2009, 11:27 AM
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| | I do agree that alot of the shows have gone to the absurd with the contestants they choose. | 
04-04-2009, 07:34 AM
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| | 4th week is on Hulu, wonder if they will continue running the series..... | 
04-04-2009, 09:25 AM
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Originally Posted by shroomgirl 4th week is on Hulu, wonder if they will continue running the series..... | Thanks for the heads up. | 
04-04-2009, 11:14 AM
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| | How many other site run tv shows besides hulu?
Is there a you two or something like that?
Thanks for any info. | 
04-05-2009, 07:16 AM
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| | This may be OT, but I just have a question about Top Chef for some of you pros.
In season 3, I think it was -- the one Hung won -- there was a challenge very near the end, when all the idiots and incompetents had been weeded out. They were at the French Culinary Institute, and were told to do something with the absolute foundational core: chicken, onion, and I think potato.
Result: Everybody was all over the place, trying weird new things, making stuff up, whatever. The woman chef, who seemed very talented, made coq au vin, except of course she didn't use a rooster or an old hen, she didn't cook it a long time, and all in all she made red-wine-stewed chicken. The judges, all classical French chefs like Soltner and so on, called her on this. Her response was basically, "hey, coq au vin isn't this or that, it's a kind of dish, you know, and I do my own thing with it, blah blah." Every other contestant did much the same.
What's with these people? I'm not a professional, but if you sent me into a French kitchen run by people like Soltner and Pepin and so on, and they said "do chicken and onion," I wouldn't mess around. It was totally obvious to me: they wanted to see if anyone could actually make things like poulet a la creme with duchesse potatoes, i.e. the old classic standbys that are easy to make decently and very, very hard to make brilliantly, the stuff they had (literally) beaten into them when they were apprentices.
Is it normal for people at this level to be so totally lacking in any kind of culinary history, by which I mean any kind of knowledge that doesn't go through the senses but through the mind? This is the thing that always bewilders me about Top Chef: nobody seems to know anything, they just do everything by feel and rule of thumb and "oh I did this thing once and...." Some are very good at it, some stink. But there's nothing else there: they ride on talent and experience, and brains are a matter of quick wits and emotional balance. Is this usual? | 
04-10-2009, 06:32 PM
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| | It looks like week 5 is on hulu.. | 
04-11-2009, 09:08 AM
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| | yep, interesting turn of events.....it'll be interesting to see who ends up winning. Initially I would have said the cousins who chose to leave the first week of competition. They just seemed to have a good combination of talent/familiarity with restaurants.
With one couple left on one side it's going to be really interesting to see how that works out.
You tube seems to break down shows into 10-15 segments, which is a drag....actually hulu sometimes has a commercial at the beginning of the show and then it's uninterupted throughout which is nice.
****'s kitchen is also on a bazzare path.....the 5 left seem to have nominal fine dining experience....I cannot fathom what it's like to have an open kitchen, a camera in my face, GR yelling obscenities and reeming not only me but the people I'm working with out throughout service..... |  | |
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