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10-15-2009, 03:55 PM
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| | I think everybody likes Michael more because he seems to have a bolder style, but I agree that Bryan is very skilled as well, and definitely more consistent.
Kevin has stepped it UP the past few weeks for sure. | 
10-15-2009, 06:49 PM
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| | I don't know anyone who dislikes Bryan. Problem is, he seems to be working in his brother's shadow. In any other group he'd certainly be among the top dogs.
At base, from a professional standpoint, Bryan is probably the better of the two, because he's more consistent. Michael is more adventuresome, and is willing to take risks---which really is the name of the game on that show. | 
10-16-2009, 11:25 AM
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| | Isn't Bryan actually the younger brother? He's certainly happier and more consistent than Michael. Michael always looks like he just ate rotten meat. Lighten up already!
I'm guessing they go out in the following order
Robin
Laureen
Eli
Mike I
leaving.....
Mike V, Brian V, Kevin and Jennifer
In the end, Kevin takes all. | 
10-16-2009, 11:37 AM
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| | ah yes, indeed I am not the only one who can't keep the Voltaggio brothers straight
on an episode by episode basis, the brother that produced that gorgeous Deconstructed dish is my current fave
agreed they are both very talented.
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10-16-2009, 11:39 AM
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| | Brian is the older brother
As for Robin and Mike. While Mike has really produced any great food, I don't think any of his food has been really bad, not compared to the dishes that have sent some of his competitors home. He will soon fall though. I think Robin has gotten a break, from the producers, as she seems to be the center of much of the tension around the Top Chef house, and that helps make for good TV (it helps pull in viewers who are more about the drama then the food). I don't think it is anything that has been overly blatant this season, unlike some of the previous seasons, but I have a feeling that the producers have leaned on the judges to make another decision if at all possible to keep her around. | 
10-16-2009, 11:47 AM
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| | the episode is soon to come where both Robin and Mike I produce an overtly "bad" dish, 3 out of 3 sins, and it will be interesting to see how and who goes home.
wish I could be a fly on the wall for the entire judges' table chat, along with the producers (a la the fine print in the credits about the decision making sometimes discussed with the producers, to paraphrase).
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10-16-2009, 12:49 PM
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Originally Posted by IslandGirl the episode is soon to come where both Robin and Mike I produce an overtly "bad" dish, 3 out of 3 sins, and it will be interesting to see how and who goes home.
wish I could be a fly on the wall for the entire judges' table chat, along with the producers (a la the fine print in the credits about the decision making sometimes discussed with the producers, to paraphrase).  | I would love to see an episode where Robin wins and Mike goes home. Now THAT's good tv!
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10-16-2009, 05:38 PM
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| | If Robin won one I don't think we'd have a chance to see Mike go home. I think he'd blow a blood vessel or something the minute he heard the news and keel over dead! | 
10-17-2009, 12:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Pete If Robin won one I don't think we'd have a chance to see Mike go home. I think he'd blow a blood vessel or something the minute he heard the news and keel over dead! |
It is what it is!  
He really needs to chill...and develop a wee bit of objective critical self-assessment.
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10-21-2009, 10:19 PM
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| | w/o giving away any endings or posting spoilers... tonights episode was pretty **** good... i was surprised by the anger/jealousy coming out of bryan voltaggio... yikes. | 
10-22-2009, 06:27 AM
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| | You have to admit he has a point. Mike behaves badly and gets rewarded with $10,000! Granted, Bryan's food was not as good as usual, but if he (Bryan) has been living with this kind of behavior his whole life, I can certainly understand his frustration. Mike reminds me of Tiffany from season 1 (or was it 2?). Very talented but an absolute b**ch. I'm certainly not rooting for him. | 
10-22-2009, 01:51 PM
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| | its a cooking contest not a popularity contest. he is by far one of the top chefs there. | 
10-22-2009, 03:01 PM
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Originally Posted by iconoclast its a cooking contest not a popularity contest. he is by far one of the top chefs there. | A truly top chef must also work with and inspire others. Nuff said.
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10-22-2009, 03:01 PM
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| | ^Definitely true, but as the judges pointed out themselves, part of being a great chef is being a great teamplayer. Mike V. definitely seems like an efficient worker with a lot of talent, but he's proven himself to be a total A-hole.
Also, maybe it's just how they're editing the show and portraying him as a villain, but his decision to split the reward seemed so contrived, like he was thinking "I'll do this to show how considerate I am and how I'm a strong team player."
I mean seriously, who acts like such a schmuck and then gives away $7500???
Talent aside, he doesn't seem like somebody I would want to work with and I could definitely see where Bryan's frustration was coming from. | 
10-22-2009, 03:04 PM
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Originally Posted by TheKitchenSink
I mean seriously, who acts like such a schmuck and then gives away $7500??? | POSSIBLY someone who cools down and then feels badly. Possibly.
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