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Old 10-28-2009, 01:25 PM
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DeltaDoc ....yes, that is what they said about the influenza. I just think its pathetic that we can put man on the moon yet we still do not have the solution to the "common cold".


Leeniek...Here is what is in the vaccine....
I received my shot ......like I said previously, everyone is entitled to an informed decision.


H1N1 (Swine Flu) and Allergies, Asthma

Vaccine Ingredients

Q. What are the ingredients of the H1N1 vaccine and adjuvant?
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The H1N1 vaccine Arepanrix has been developed by GlaxoSmithKline using the egg-based production method. This means the vaccine viruses are grown in eggs. This is true for the regular flu shot as well. (For egg allergies, see: H1N1 and Food Allergies.)
The vaccine has two components that are mixed together before the vaccine is given. The primary substance is the antigen drug substance for immunizing. It is administered with an adjuvant known as AS03.
The antigen contains: thimerosal, a mercury-based preservative used in the manufacturing of multidose vaccines, sodium chloride, disodium hydrogen phosphate, potassium dihydrogen phosphate, potassium chloride and water. As mentioned, there are traces of egg protein, and also of formaldehyde, sodium deoxycholate and sucrose.
The adjuvant AS03 is composed of: DL-alpha-tocopherol (vitamin E), squalene (shark liver oil) and polysorbate 80 (an emulsifier). In addition, its vial contains: sodium chloride, disodium hydrogen phosphate, potassium dihydrogen phosphate, potassium chloride and water. (For fish, soy allergy concerns, see H1N1 and Food Allergies.)
Read Health Canada's Arepanrix product leaflet details.
Read Allergists' Position statement - on egg allergy.
Anti-viral Drug Ingredients

A doctor may prescribe an anti-viral medication for two reasons: first, if you have the flu, to reduce your symptoms; and second, as a “prophylaxis”, which means, to reduce the likelihood that you will contract the virus. (This would likely be to stop the spread of the flu in a setting such as a hospital.)
Q. What are the ingredients of anti-viral Relenza?
A.

Medicinal Ingredient:
• Zanamivir
Non-medicinal Ingredient:
• Lactose (contains milk protein)
Read the Relenza product monograph.
Q. What are the ingredients of Tamiflu?
A.

Capsules
Medicinal Ingredient:
• Oseltamivir phosphate
Non-medicinal Ingredients:

• Corn starch
• Croscarmellose sodium
• Povidone K30
• Sodium Stearyl fumarate
• Talc
• Gelatin
• Titanium dioxide
• FD&C blue No. 2
• One more of: Red iron oxide, Yellow iron oxide, Black iron oxide
Oral Suspension (for young children or people who cannot swallow a capsule)
Medicinal Ingredient:
• Oseltamivir phosphate
Non-medicinal Ingredients:

• Monosodium citrate
• Saccharin sodium
• Sodium benzoate
• Sorbitol
• Titanium dioxide
• Tuttifrutti flavouring
• Xanthan gum
Read the Tamifluproduct monograph
Related ReadingSources
• H1N1 media call with experts, organized by The Lung Association of Canada.
• Websites linked above.
• Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC).
• E-mail interviews with Dr. Wade Watson and Dr. Michael Cyr.
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Thanks for the info, Petals.
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Yes, its true that the inhaled version contains a weakened but alive virus. But the shot cultured in eggs is completely dead virus.
I opt for the shot.
We were waiting for the shot as well. Unfortunately by the time the shots arrive in our area we will be well in to the season. Added to that we will taking a long flight in a month so we wanted to have be done with this before we left for vacation.
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Old 10-28-2009, 05:38 PM
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I had a general flu shot last week. The swine flu vaccine arrives in my doctor's surgery on 6 November. I am on the 'at risk' list, and expect to be called in to get the jab asap after that.

I have thought long and hard about it - but with my various ailments, have decided the risk of the injection is worth taking.
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Old 11-02-2009, 12:01 PM
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Hey doc.. have you heard anything about the inhaled version containing any traces of egg or egg protein? I'm still waiting on my callback from the doctor's office so I'm going to add that to my list of questions I have to ask.
I really don't know, but after watching 60 minutes last night, it seems that to culture the virus it has to be alive and in something alive like a live (not sterile) egg. I would guess the inhaled version uses virus from the eggs but somehow weakens it...have no idea how.

But the virus that was alive in the egg is killed before making the shot version. So that is the way I will go once the shot is available.

Hoping not to get the H1N1 before the shot!

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Old 11-06-2009, 06:58 AM
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Squalene (shark liver oil). That doesn't make it sound so bad, kinda like fish oil. Omega 3s right? I've heard bad things about squalene--controversy about it causing autoimmune disorder, sterility, and death due to cytokine storm.

It seems very very suspicious to me how a bird virus, a pig virus, and the 1918 flu virus can all combine all of a sudden out of nowhere in this day and age where genetic modification is now possible and common. There's just too much profit to be made. I personally have a strong distrust of the official political policy on what is healthy and what is not. No shot for me.
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Old 11-06-2009, 05:27 PM
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No shot for me.
I'm not going to get one either.
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Old 11-10-2009, 12:52 AM
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Thank you for all the documentation and reports......I`ve read them, They were all brought to us by the same people that in the `80s said we would all die from the "aids" epicemic. Do you think they could possibly be WRONG again?
Hey thats great and all, and yes most people with it won't die, but then again not getting the flu is pretty sweet compared to getting it

My kids got the vaccine last weekend, I get it next weekend. Being I'm a health professional and all who works with kids don't you think it would be smart for me to get it lest I spread it were I to get infected?
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