No more French Fries???

[panini]

So that`s the idea Pete,do you think Gen.Powell might take this on board?This strategy could be deployed in a covert operation,to infiltrate,undermine and cause apathy and nausea.

That's the idea behind being a Super Power. (SuperSize)

[kokopuffs]

How about Freedom Underwear!?!?

[panini]

Freedom Poodle?

[kokopuffs]

Freedom Wine and Freedom Cheese. Oh, let's see, Freedom Souffle. Olay!

[phoebe]

I can think of nothing more American in principle and spirit than France's right to disagree with the USA in this matter.

I agree with Greg. The Bill of Rights isn't easy. Accepting and even championing someone's right to say something you absolutely hate, isn't easy. The French do not disrespect America, they do not dislike Americans (at least not in my limited experience), and they have not forgotten what a friend we have been to them in the past. But friends can disagree, even over deadly serious matters. If they cannot, it doesn't say much for the friendship.
I am far more comfortable having France refuse to support our government's call for war than I am having countries accept our bribes of money and influence to back us up.

[Isa]

Thank you Greg

[Mezzaluna]

Leo and Jeff, I would also add the effects of fast-food induced obesity to the list. Clog up their arteries and make their bellies so flabby that the effort involved in moving isn't worth it; or their midsections are too rotund to be able to strap on explosives belts....

Freedom kisses?

[Leo R.]

Originally posted by Mezzaluna
Leo and Jeff, I would also add the effects of fast-food induced obesity to the list. Clog up their arteries and make their bellies so flabby that the effort involved in moving isn't worth it; or their midsections are too rotund to be able to strap on explosives belts....

Freedom kisses?

Tsk!Tsk!You will have the "politically correct"brigade after you for making references about people who have "a greater surface area".
Kokopuffs,isn`t "freedom underwear" reminiscent of the 1960`s?

[kokopuffs]

Leo: ...don't remember any such reference to freedom u'wear in the 60's.

[Mezzaluna]

Leo, I have pretty respectable surface area myself.

[phoebe]

Leo and Kokopuffs,

As I recall, it was freedom FROM underwear.

[panini]

I have so much surface, I just might be able to hide the explosives.

[kokopuffs]

Ooooooohhhhh, Phoebe, ban the bra rhetoric!

[chiffonade]

Oh, for...

Is no one on any discussion board old enough to remember that they did the exact same thing during World War II???

Frankfurters = Victory Dogs (It was during this time they became "hot" dogs)
Sauerkraut = Victory Cabbage
Cole Slaw = Victory Slaw


My mother often regaled us about how the homefront supported the soldiers who fought in WWII. The difference I'm seeing here is that now, the general public tends to scoff at such efforts to present a united front. Why is that? Is freedom any less valuable now than it was during WWII??

It's easy to blurt out "it's an oil war" then sit back and relax on the platform of moral awareness. It's not an oil war. There is a huge hole in a block in lower Manhattan that is a very tangible reminder of this.

People can't seem to get their minds wrapped around the fact that this is a conflict between free nations and Islamic Fanatics. These are not people who are living by the Koran, they are mocking it. That's why Muhammed Ali and Will Smith rose to the occasion and spoke about true Muslims and their love of peace. I don't believe the Koran states that blowing yourself and others up in the name of Allah is valid worship. The enemy does not occupy one continent or another, rather it's spread under cover of "religion" all over the place! Sadaam and Osama are the same nut with different facial hair.

As far as I'm concerned, this war is 2 years late. It didn't take the US 2 years to declare war on Japan after Pearl Harbor - a military base and assumed target - and it d@mned well shouldn't have taken two years after nearly 3,000 civilians lost their lives in the World Trade Center just for going to work that day.

No one wants war - me included. Heck, I'm not even a Republican! But if it weren't for earlier wars, I know I wouldn't enjoy the freedom I now do.

For me, it's personal. The WTC was a frequent haven of mine, when I had time to kill or needed something. The place was like a self-contained city. For me, there's a score to settle. And I'm going to support the troops as they go "over there*" to rid the world of the likes of Sadaam.

*"Over There" is another war reference - it was a popular song in support of the troops.

[Pete]

Chiff, there is no connection between 9/11 and Saddam. Osama was (and still is) one of Saddam's biggest critics, and vowed to see him removed. People seem to think that just because they are both Muslim and they both hate the US, they must be working together. Not so.

As for the renaming of foods, yes I am aware of that happening during WWII and I think it was silly then, and even sillier now.

Besides the hypocritical nature of our going to war with Iraq, this war will also set a very dangerous precedent. If we go to war, without UN consent, on the basis of an implied threat to our security, what is to stop other countries from doing the same. N. Korea can invade S. Korea, India can invade Pakistan, any Arab country can invade Israel, China could invade Russia or any of the ...stans, most any African nation can go to war with any of its neighbors. What will be there to stop them? The US feels that it can do as it pleases, so why shouldn't they? Where will our moral standing be to dispute such actions?

As for our troops, I am in full support of them. I wish them luck, I pray for their safety, and a quick end to this war. But I cannot support those that have pushed for this war. And what is more, I feel it is my patriotic duty to speak out against this war. This war is going to hurt the US in the long run. It is going to weaken our status in the world. It is going to weaken our ability to negotiate, and form treaties. I don't believe that Bush is looking at the long term. He has an agenda that he wants completed. I think is judgement is clouded, and as much as he thinks he is doing this for our best interests, it will not end up that way.