Go to ChefTalk.com  
Cooking ArticlesCookbook ReviewsCooking ForumsRecipesCooking Glossary  

Go Back   ChefTalk Cooking Forums > Food and Cooking Forums > Pastries and Baking General

Pastries and Baking General General discussion forum for all pastry and baking topics.


Reply
 
Thread Tools
  #1  
Old 03-15-2005, 10:44 PM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Posts: 2
Unhappy Sourdough problem

I have sourdough starter which I made at home.
When I use it to make bread and spike it with some commercial yeast the bread comes out fine but sometimes lacks the sourness or have very little sour taste. My major problem is using the wild starter without any yeast.
Yesterday I prepared a sourdough bread, fermented it for about 8 hours, and it didn't grow in size . When I baked it, it blow out in the oven leaving open cracks .

Any ideas?

Eyal
Reply With Quote


  #2  
Old 03-16-2005, 09:47 AM
KyleW's Avatar
ChefTalk Moderator
Culinary Experience: Home Chef
 
Join Date: Aug 2000
Location: NYC, NY USA
Posts: 1,702
Default

I wonder how 'potent' your starter is. A healthy, active starter should nearly triple in volume 6-8 hours after a feeding. It's at this peak when you want to build your dough. Once you build the dough, it should be about 8 hours before the bread is ready for the oven. This is generally 4 hours of bulk fermentation and 4 hours of proofing. To get the biggest oven spring, and the best crust development, sourdough breads like very high oven temps, 500º-525º.

If you can give us a little more info about your starter, like how often youfeed it before you bake with it? What amount you feed and what you feed it etc. Maybe we can find the source of your trouble.
__________________
At weddings, my Aunts would poke me in the ribs and cackle "You're next!". They stopped when I started doing the same to them at funerals.
www.kyleskitchen.net
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 04-08-2005, 05:12 AM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Posts: 6
Default

Hi Eyal!

You only ferment your starter for 8 hours????? In the bakery where I worked our starter was 7 years old. We used some everyday but also fed it everyday to keep up the supply. Our sourdough breads were very tangy indeed. We fed it daily with Rye flour and High Gluten flour and water. The original base was Rye flour, High Gluten flour, yeast, sugar and water. We had customers asking for small conainers of it to feed to their existing starters for a boost. We kept it in a five gallon bucket at room temperature with a lid loosely on it. One hot August day we heard what sounded like a gunshot only to discover enough gas had built up inside the bucket to blow the lid off of it and spackle the entire room with starter. I don't need to tell you how difficult it is to clean up hardened flour and water! Good luck!

Suzanne
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 04-08-2005, 09:18 AM
KyleW's Avatar
ChefTalk Moderator
Culinary Experience: Home Chef
 
Join Date: Aug 2000
Location: NYC, NY USA
Posts: 1,702
Default

My starter is actually about 4 years old. The first 8 hours is how long it ferments after a feeding, before it is used to build a dough. The second 8 hours is the fermenting and proofing of the finished dough.
__________________
At weddings, my Aunts would poke me in the ribs and cackle "You're next!". They stopped when I started doing the same to them at funerals.
www.kyleskitchen.net
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks


Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are Off

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
sourdough qahtan Pastries and Baking General 10 03-24-2008 02:29 PM
Sourdough: which starters best? newbiechef Pastries and Baking General 3 03-19-2007 08:06 PM
My first sourdough rye qahtan Pastries and Baking General 7 02-09-2007 11:53 AM
Sourdough Starter Simbebe60 Pastries and Baking General 18 11-04-2006 05:39 AM
like a sourdough starter . . . dsc32 Welcome Forum 2 08-12-2002 05:30 PM


All times are GMT -7. The time now is 01:48 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.3
Copyright ©2000 - 2008, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Search Engine Friendly URLs by vBSEO 3.2.0
© 1998 - 2008 ChefTalk.com • All rights reserved

1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 48 49 50 51 52 53 54 55 56 57 58 59 60 61 62 63 64 65 66 67 68 69 70 71 72 73 74 75 76 77 78 79 80 81 82 83 84 85 86 87 88 89 90 91 92 93 94 95 96 97 98 99 100 101 102 103 104 105 106 107 108 109 110 111 112 113 114 115 116 117 118 119 120 121 122 123 124 125