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| Been watching the Food Network challanges, on and off, and I've got a question. Just what is a cake? I'm serious. I do not come from a baking tradition, and think of a cake as something made of flour, sugar, liquid, eggs, flavorings, all of which gets covered (sometimes) with icing. Then I watch those artists at work. They are incredible, each and every one of them; combining as they do the skills of baker, sugar worker, sculpter, painter, and engineer. I admire them. I really and truly do. However, when you start to analyze their creations, and back away the candies, and spun-blown-molded sugar, and fondant, and non-edible support structures, well----I would call what they do confections. So, I'm back to the basic question: Just how is "cake" defined?? |
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| the rules of the challenge are made known to the participants. sometimes cake is 50%, 75% or 85% of the item. i find it far more compelling when the cake is used instead of the wood structure and rice crispy treats. that doughnut was a panic on the last challenge and the winners cake really popped with clear cartoon color and many elements... tough to judge! ![]()
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| I'm not particularly concerned with the challange rules. That's an artificial environment at best. What I'm asking is how a cake is defined in the everyday world. Certainly many bakers' show pieces use the same ingredients, materials, and techniques as are used on the challange. But is it still a cake with less than half the total is, ummmmmm, cake? That's really what I'm trying to find out. What makes a cake a cake? And I agree about the doughnut, and disagree with the judges' evaluation. I think it truly represented the movie based on its promotion. Ah, well. Not the first time I had to wonder if food network judges were watching the same competition I was. |
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| Cake is a bread like baked item made with sugar, flour, eggs, liquids, flavors/colors,leavening.... Cake is a hashed up food product in patty shape ususally fried, like fish cakes... Cake is a band... Cake can be leavened or unleavened.... Cake can be a mess in the oven as in "baked on caked on mess."... A cake should, imho, mostly cake! ![]() Piece Monte (sp) is something that incorporates many diciplins of pastry making. Center Piece, Sculpture, Sugar Piece, Wood Shop ... there are other names to be used.
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