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08-30-2007, 10:37 PM
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| | Question about tart i live in oregon and i went to a famous book store around here with the one of the biggest selections in new and used books in the entire country and they had an espresso stand with some baked goods and i ordered a cherry almond tart and this tart was one of the best i've ever had... it had a wet almost paste like center that tasted strongly of almond inside a pastry shell and cherries on top with sliced toasted almonds... anyway, what i want to know is... does anyone know how to make that wet, paste like center? i tried to do it myself making a flour butter mixture on the stove almost like a rue and added eggs to it, but it wasn't the same... please help!
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08-31-2007, 12:18 AM
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| | look for frangipane recipes. | 
09-07-2007, 08:57 AM
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Originally Posted by joujoudoll i live in oregon and i went to a famous book store around here with the one of the biggest selections in new and used books in the entire country and they had an espresso stand with some baked goods and i ordered a cherry almond tart and this tart was one of the best i've ever had... it had a wet almost paste like center that tasted strongly of almond inside a pastry shell and cherries on top with sliced toasted almonds... anyway, what i want to know is... does anyone know how to make that wet, paste like center? i tried to do it myself making a flour butter mixture on the stove almost like a rue and added eggs to it, but it wasn't the same... please help!
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Stephanie | Hi Stephanie,
Here's my frangipane recipe. This makes a lot so you can scale it down if need be
Almond Paste - 8oz
Sugar - 8oz
Butter (or shortening) 4oz
Pastry flour 2oz
Eggs 2oz
use a paddle on your mixer and mix almond paste with sugar until well mixed. Mix in your fat and flour until smooth. Beat in the eggs a little at a time until smooth. Easy-Peasy.
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09-07-2007, 12:26 PM
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Originally Posted by JohnBaker Hi Stephanie,
Here's my frangipane recipe. This makes a lot so you can scale it down if need be
Almond Paste - 8oz
Sugar - 8oz
Butter (or shortening) 4oz
Pastry flour 2oz
Eggs 2oz
use a paddle on your mixer and mix almond paste with sugar until well mixed. Mix in your fat and flour until smooth. Beat in the eggs a little at a time until smooth. Easy-Peasy.
JohnBaker | Thank you so much! I will definitely use that recipe... My only question is, do I have to use the pastry flour? I'm not sure where to get pastry flour.
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09-07-2007, 01:28 PM
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| | Here's an article about protein content of various flours. Flour - Joyofbaking.com Apparently cake flour is similar to pastry flour, but not completely interchangeable. I know you can send to King Arthur for the flour, but maybe someone who's more knowledgeable can give you hints on how to substitute or mix various flours. I know you can get cake flour (Softasilk, Swan's Down) in boxes in many grocery stores.
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09-07-2007, 01:53 PM
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| | I ate so much delicious frangipane in France (especially in those almond croissants) I could throw it up right now. | 
09-07-2007, 04:20 PM
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| | If you can't find pastry flour, you can use cake flour, which as less gluten (just marginally), or you could use all purpose flour (which has more gluten). Either will work fine and you'll have a great product.
Enjoy
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09-08-2007, 11:40 AM
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09-08-2007, 02:51 PM
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| | Hi Stephanie, sounds like you went to a Borders book store? If so, you're probably not here in Bend. We don't have one yet :^(
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09-08-2007, 07:01 PM
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| | Stephanie,
If you go to Fred Meyers, in their natural/bulk bins they will not only have pastry flour, but you'll probably have to choose if you want whole wheat or white.
If you have a WinCo nearby, you can do the same thing in their bulk sections. Also, alot of grocery stores in our area (if not elseware) are carrying small bags of Bob's Red Mill flours, if not other brands of pastry flour as well.
Erik (formerly of Oregon)
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09-08-2007, 07:58 PM
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Originally Posted by panini John Baker? Long hair, J&W's a million yrs. ago? | Well..the hair was long, before someone stole it  Never went to J&W. Johnbaker was a childhood nick name and now it seems to fit. | 
09-10-2007, 10:36 PM
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Originally Posted by AndyG Hi Stephanie, sounds like you went to a Borders book store? If so, you're probably not here in Bend. We don't have one yet :^( | No, it's a bookstore called Powell's... Powells Books - Used, New, and Out of Print
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09-10-2007, 10:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Erik Stephanie,
If you go to Fred Meyers, in their natural/bulk bins they will not only have pastry flour, but you'll probably have to choose if you want whole wheat or white.
If you have a WinCo nearby, you can do the same thing in their bulk sections. Also, alot of grocery stores in our area (if not elseware) are carrying small bags of Bob's Red Mill flours, if not other brands of pastry flour as well.
Erik (formerly of Oregon) | Wow, thanks for the info... I will have to go to Winco or Freddies... I didn't know you could get that stuff in bulk. Thanks again!
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09-11-2007, 06:25 AM
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Originally Posted by joujoudoll Wow, thanks for the info... I will have to go to Winco or Freddies... I didn't know you could get that stuff in bulk. Thanks again!
-Stephanie | Yes, Freddies has become my best friend for that reason. Especially with ingredients I hardly ever use. I can buy exactly as much as I need for a project. Their 'Rewards' program is pretty cool too.
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09-13-2007, 09:46 PM
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| | Here in Bend, the only "rewards" program goes towards buying gas and I don't drive my own car much. Will be driving to Corvallis this weekend tho.
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