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| I searched in SOAR for a New York style cheesecake to make for my 'maiden voyage' in to this realm. The first time with something new, I always follow the recipe to the letter. It it still in the oven, and I'm not a happy camper. First, the pastry for the crust fell apart big time. The baking instructions said to bake it at 550 for 20 minutes, the at 200 for one hour. It was quite dark brown at the end of just 15 minutes, and very dark at the end of 20. I turned the heat down as directed and dispair of this success of this venture. After 48 minutes, the filling still jiggles slightly. Should I just leave in the turned-off oven at the end of the hour? Or cool it on a rack, as the directions state? I'm really bummed about this.... (a better word would have been bleeped!!! ) I am serving it tomorrow, so it will be chilled for almost 24 hours.Any advice for the next trial? [ 02-10-2001: Message edited by: Mezzaluna ]
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| 550 sounds quite a bit high to me. I think it should bake at a lower temp than that, but I don't know for sure. Also, I bet this sucker is gonna crack like crazy. Try letting it cool in the turned-off oven with the oven door somewhat open after running a knife around between the crust and the pan. Needs to cool slowly to prevent cracking. |
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| Mezz: I checked and I was right. I think you had a misprint. I think it shoulda said 350, not 550. Anyway, check out this site. It gives a whole host of cheesecake recipes: http://recipes.alastra.com/desserts-...e/default.html |
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| Mezz, Sorry to hear that your bummed!! All is not lost. Go buy some strawberrys and slice them in halh lenght wise make a circular pattern on top of the cake (when it is cooled)and cover it with the berries then melt some preserves with a slpash of water and brush the berries with a pastry brush.That should hide any onperfections and it also look's quite nice.As to the recipe you followed I would be a little suspect of blasting a cheese cake at 500 for 15 minutes then cooking at 200. Cheese cakes are pretty delicate and benifit (I believe) in even cooking tempature 350/375. I also leave the oven door open after the cake is done and don't remove it until it is almost completly cooled. Then into the fridge it goes "lightly" wrapped. Mezz, when you cut it tommorrow use a very sharp knife and dip it in warm water before each slice this helps with a clean cut.As far as the crust it sounds like one of two things or a combo of the two. 1)not enough melted butter in the meal or the first blast at 500 dried it out to fast or both. wher you planing on a sweetned sour cream layer on tip? Good luck next time and keep the faith cc
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| I just reread your original post and methinks you might consider starting over on this one. |
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| Crudeau, I'll be serving this to people who love me and support my cooking adventures, so I'm not terribly worried. (also, I stuck my finger in the batter- I know, raw eggs are risky, but I couldn't resist- and it tasted good) Brad, I did leave it in the oven, door ajar- and the top hasn't cracked yet after 1/2 hour. It it's really bad, maybe I'll use some dental floss to shave off the top and give it a berry garnish... I'll let you know how it comes out tomorrow. If the recipe is tasty, I'll find another crust and modify the baking temperature. Thanks for the help and hand-holding!
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| Mezz: Glad it didn't crack. Did you check out the website I posted? If you do, then you will have a whole host of cheesecake recipes to try. You might even become the Cheesecake Maven of Wisconsin. ![]() |
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| Man, I'm sorry to hear about your cake. In addition to what cape chef suggested, you can do a layer of choc. ganache on top, instead of berries. That will hide the darkness on top of the cake. 550 is WAY too high. I bake mine in a water bath at 300 (convection), and even that's a little high. All these little tricks that people use, in order to ensure a perfect cheesecake, are totally unnecessary. Bake it at 300. When it puffs up just slightly, and hardly jiggles at all, it is ready. If it cracks, the temp was too high, or it cooked too long. If it didn't crack, it won't crack after it's been baked. Follow cape's advice about the wet knife, or slice it with dental floss, preferably away from your guests.
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| By "little tricks", I am referring to drastically changing the temperature of the oven. I have read other recipes like that, and it's totally insane!!
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| I like the ganache idea. (When is ganache NOT a good idea??! ) I have a bar of Scharffen Barger unsweetened... Would be good, as it's a very deep chocolate flavor. Lots to explore at alastra.com! Thanks for the tip, Crudeau.
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| The only time I wouldn't use ganache is with berries. Use one or the other. I have never made ganache with unsweetened, but I assume it'll work out fine. Just add sugar to taste. (Or buy a block of semisweet). But berries alone are great too. Maybe if you go that route, you can spread some dark berry preserves on the cake before the berries go on. Just to mask the color. You know.
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| or you could call it a creme brulee cheesecake. |
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| Or you could cover it up with Cool Whip. |
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| turn it into ice cream. ![]() |
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| Shorten the baking time at 550 to 10 min. this gives a crust on the top to keep form cracking. possible crusts for the bottom, a thin layer of genoise, graham cracker, tart dough, chocolate cake, vanilla wafers, chocolate wafers, cake crumbs or lady fingers. cheese cake is hard to screw up because it tasts sooo good no matter how it looks, and remember, if you make a mistake, put a rose on it!!!! ![]()
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