| Pastries and Baking General General discussion forum for all pastry and baking topics. |  | 
07-14-2009, 04:17 PM
|  | Registered User Culinary Experience: Cook At Home | | Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: NY
Posts: 228
| | What happend to good ol LARD Does Crisco/Veg Short taste all lot diffrent from lard??
Will things like frostning and bread taste much better with lard??
If a recipe says 1 cup veg can you sub with lard???
I know everyone is worried about calories but if you only use it every blue moon and lard is in commercial pastries.... | 
07-14-2009, 04:47 PM
| | ChefTalk Book Reviewer Culinary Experience: Food Writer | | Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Central Kentucky---where the bluegrass meets the mountains
Posts: 2,359
| | Lard has a very distinct flavor, totally different from the neutral taste of shortening. Thus, it works well with some things, not so well with others. You can't beat it for biscuits, for instance. Nor, IMO, for pie dough. | 
07-15-2009, 03:04 AM
| | Registered User Culinary Experience: At home cook | | Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Rome, Italy
Posts: 1,136
| | I don;t believe lard has any more calories than crisco. It's a myth. Once my brother, who should know better, since he's educated and reads a lot, was piling the margarine thickly on his "lite" pancakes. (THey were indeed very dry and awful - why bother to eat them at all i wonder, if you have to make them like that). I said, if you;d put some butter in the pancake batter you wouldnl;t need to compensate with the margarine on top. He said yeah, but margarine has less calories! NO! it;s a myth, that the producers of unhealthy chemically altered products have tried to foist on the public about their criscos and margarines. They have less cholesterol, not less calories. And now they don;t even seem to know for sure if the cholesterol you eat becomes cholesterol in the blood or if it's actually the saturated fats, or other stuff that makes your body produce cholesterol. I think it will be some time before they figure this out completely and it;s probably very complex and different for different people. I'm no expert so i won;t say. But as for calories, correct me if i'm wrong, but i think fats all have about the same calories.
as for pie crust, lard is amazing. But i never use crisco, only butter. | 
07-15-2009, 04:24 AM
| | ChefTalk Moderator Culinary Experience: Cook At Home | | Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: UK
Posts: 1,464
| | I use lard for Scottish oatcakes (the savoury type, not sweetened biscuit/cookie type) and for pastry for savoury pies. I use butter for sweet pastry. | 
07-15-2009, 08:20 AM
|  | ChefTalk Moderator Culinary Experience: Cook At Home | | Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Wisconsin USA
Posts: 9,200
| | Quote: |
Will things like frostning and bread taste much better with lard??
| I don't think lard is a good choice for frosting (icing) or sweet fillings. I don't know about using this type of fats in breads (sweet or savory) unless you mean quick breads like banana bread, etc.
Since we didn't use lard for religious reasons, my mom always had a can of Spry or Crisco in the cupbard. She rarely deep fried, but used it for that as well as for pie crusts and cookies. Do they even make Spry any more??
__________________ Moderator, Welcome Forum
***It is better to ask forgiveness than beg permission.*** | 
07-15-2009, 11:59 AM
|  | Registered User Culinary Experience: At home cook | | Join Date: Jul 2006
Posts: 546
| | The "lard" you see sitting on supermarket shelves is a lard product, but with stabilizers added to extend shelf life. Unfortunately, it lacks the flavor profile of freshly rendered lard. Even so, I like lard for such things as biscuits and pie dough, but in combination with butter, because the melting point of each is different, resulting in lighter, fluffier and/or flakier products. As far as calories go, there's little to no difference between equal volumes of lard and butter, solid shortening, regular margarine or regular cooking oil. However, if you are watching cholesterol, that's another matter.
I would never use lard in frosting.
__________________ "The pressure's on...let's cook something!" Social Group: "Pressure Cooker Enthusiasts"...everyone's welcome.
Last edited by amazingrace; 07-15-2009 at 12:02 PM.
| 
07-15-2009, 07:29 PM
|  | Registered User Culinary Experience: Culinary Student | | Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: New York
Posts: 93
| | i used to substitute Lard for Crisco until one day my recipe didn't turn out the way I had wished (a bit runny). I told my instructor (naming the ingredients) and she told me not to use lard because it's animal fat. So I no longer use lard. | 
07-15-2009, 08:11 PM
| | Registered User Culinary Experience: Cook At Home | | Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Chicago
Posts: 94
| | I think lard trumps all. My grandmother's recipes in her cookbook all call for lard and she knows what she's doing. | 
07-15-2009, 08:53 PM
| | Registered User Culinary Experience: Line Cook | | Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Auburn, CA
Posts: 362
| | what happened to it?...it got a bad rap...that's what happened to it
thread from the beginning of June this year
Check it: LARD is back baby!!! (link)
__________________ Do not meddle in the affairs of Dragons... for you are crunchy.... and taste good with ketchup |  |
Posting Rules
| You may not post new threads You may not post replies You may not post attachments You may not edit your posts HTML code is Off | | |
Similar Threads | | Thread | Thread Starter | Forum | Replies | Last Post | | Lucious Lard | shel | Food & Cooking Questions and Discussion | 11 | 09-22-2008 05:41 PM | | Lard - It's good for you? | shel | Food & Cooking Questions and Discussion | 16 | 03-07-2007 03:42 PM | | leaf lard preserving | shroomgirl | Professional Chefs Forum | 4 | 03-10-2006 07:00 AM | | Homemade Lard? | mudbug | Food & Cooking Questions and Discussion | 22 | 02-02-2002 12:19 AM | | Lard & Fish Sauce | Katherine | Food & Cooking Questions and Discussion | 6 | 01-08-2001 11:21 PM | |