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Old 04-22-2001, 06:34 PM
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Does EVERYONE smoke?

Hi all. I wanted to know how many people in the kitchens you work in do not smoke. I feel like every time I take a break, I either have to go to a place other than where my co-workers are, or just sit and breathe in smoke. I really just have a very low tolerance for it, it makes me cough and feel crappy, it's not a moral issue or anything.

So two questions: is it a typical case where most people will smoke on every single break? I guess I'm trying to know if most restaurant kitchens have a majority of smokers working there.

And how else can I get to know people if they smoke every time they aren't working?

Just blowing off some smoke, (ha ha)
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Old 04-22-2001, 09:00 PM
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I know quite a few people that I work with are smokers, but the staff are not allowed to smoke indoors, so it's not that big of a problem for me personally, besides after September 10/01, unless a restaurant or bar has a proper ventilation system or a self serve smoking room, it's strictly no smoking across the board in BC. (WCB regulation).
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Old 04-22-2001, 10:53 PM
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The kitchen in which I work, about 50% of the employees smoke. They have to go to a designated area outside to smoke. I don't smoke, never saw any interest in it, but it hasen't bothered me in any way, since I'm not around it.
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Old 04-23-2001, 03:57 AM
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In many pro kitchens that I've worked in we were often so busy that if you didn't smoke, it was difficult to get away to take a 5-10 minute break. I remember on numerous occasions working for a solid 10 hour stretch without any kind of break-eating lunch while working, drinking many cups of coffee while always on the fly. Smokers seem to have an easy out--- "Chef, I'm going to take a smoke break" "Okay, back in 5, right?"
I started smoking just to get the break, but never enjoyed it much. Thankfully, it never became a habit and my choice of food vocations is now more conducive to healthy living.
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Old 04-23-2001, 06:24 AM
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I'm not a big smoker my self(exept baby back ribs, duck breast, salmons, sausages etc.) But smoking once in ashile I'll say onething. A cook is one the most andrenalin inducing jobs i know(execpt diffusing bombs in the army...). And nicotine and andrenalin work very well together. It gives a sort of sharpness very helpfull in a kitchen.

But personelly I thinkg that smoking through work in a kitchen is nonproffesional it takes away your pallate and your nose. Now guys! this are the tools of the trade, they're more important than knives and cuttinmg boards or any gadget. How can you cook with fifty percent of your tasting abilities blocked? That's drunk driving for me. A smoke after a busy crazy shift just before cleanup is great but otherwise - Be Proffesional.
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i agree....smoking kills your sense of taste and most people that i've worked with that are heavy smokers tend to over-salt and over-season as a result. this ***** .

to answer your question....most restaurants i've worked in, it's probably about a 50-50 split smokers to non, but i think this is changing as more people take the job seriously, and less restaurants allow smoking on the job.

the last few places i've worked have been strictly non-smoking in the dining room, and accordingly for the staff. no smoke breaks. period. this is during a sometimes 15 hour shift. the management was unbending. you need nicotine? get a patch. so that's what some did. others just got irritable and hard to work with. i like this policy and encourage it. i don't like to smell cigarette smoke as a diner in a restaurant, and i don't like to smell it on a cook who's just come back from a smoke break.

also, like foodnfoto said, smokers always seem to get lots of little breaks throughout the day while us non-smokers just keep working. this never seemed very fair to me. why should you get to go outside for 5 or 10 minutes just because you have a bad habit that you want to partake in?

personally i think it should be treated just like any other bad habit... you're not allowed to drink on the job are you? or smoke pot? or do coke? so do it on the sly and don't get caught....or don't do it! it doesn't belong in the kitchen or the dining room, so do it in your free time.

the days of looking back into a kitchen and seeing the cook with a cigarette hanging out of his mouth are over! i welcome this new professionalism.
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Old 04-24-2001, 06:02 AM
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In every place I worked I was typically the minority because I did not smoke. There is little you can do, and if you think it is bad here, go over to a country like Greece or Italy and everyone smokes.
The one thing that really bothers me about smokers is the smell and flavor of nicotine and tobacco that is on their fingers when they are done. Unless they really wash their hands well a smoker imparts some pretty nasty stuff to the food. Along with that it also really screws up your tastebuds. To me it is the same as drinking coffee or coke while you are cooking, you just don't do it. Keep your palate clean...
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I am of the 10% who doesn't smoke at work. I'm glad to see that I'm not the only one who feels that smokers tend to overseason. People at work take offense when I say it. With 90% against me on this one, it's an argument I try not to pick... Whenever I eat at the restaurant, I find that the food is good but the saltiness gets to me after a while (the third bite or so) and if I finish my meal, I get a headache.

I never really thought about it, but you are right: smokers do take so many small breaks whereas I work my 10-11 hour shift straight, every single day. Hmm... This IS unfair! Thank goodness they have to go outside to smoke...
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Old 04-24-2001, 05:48 PM
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I've worked in many kitchens throughout the midwest, and worked with dozens of chefs through ACF fundraising and benefit dinners, and my observation is:
Almost ALL chefs and/or long term kitchen workers have one or more of the following traits, chain smoking
heavy drinking
illegal drugs
unbeleivable caffeine consumption

I've met many who suffer from all four, plus others too numerous to mention. I have gone through stages of each, and settled on the caffiene consumption. Yes, it rips me when I've been sweating for twelve hours and the smoker guys take a break every hour or more, but I also rose through the ranks quicker because I busted my butt more, too.
In my current position, no employees ae allowed to smoke while on duty, and nowhere on the property, so it cuts down on the smokers quickly. It also makes it quite tough to hire line cooks!
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Old 04-25-2001, 07:30 AM
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At one local restaurant, the staff is usually hanging around the back door (which is off the parking lot) smoking. Unfortunately, the dumpster is also beside that door. This restaurant has flies year round--I think they live in the decorations! We no longer go there.
When I first started in teaching over 20 years ago, you could find the teachers lounge by sniffing the air in the hallway. Smoke was so thick in there that you couldn't see the far wall from the door. As a nonsmoker, this made for an unpleasant place to be for my prep hour. And it also separated me from most of the staff. Now smoking is off limits on campus, period. If they would only make the public not smoke outside the door at ballgames, I would not have to smell it when I sell tickets!
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Old 04-25-2001, 07:49 AM
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I used to smoke Winstons and sometimes cigars. Put the pack down 5 years ago and never picked it up again. Problem is, I never got over the desire to smoke. So when co-workers take their 25 breaks per day, I might go with them and breathe in the second hand smoke. My vices are coffee, gin, and Hostess cherry pies. They're killin me.
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Old 04-26-2001, 06:06 AM
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I think I made a point yesterday night. It was kind of slow, so I headed outside after the line cooks came in from smoking, and told the guy in charge that I was going outside to NOT smoke. (I emphasized the not). I then proceeded to sit for five blissful minutes, and put my feet up on a dish carton. It certainly isn't fair that they get to go outside so often, so I have decided that as long as I have everything done, I get breaks too!

Of course, I live in a college town and next week is graduation week, and I doubt any of us will be getting any sort of breaks this next week!

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I used to smoke a pack a day of high tar cigs.... i have recently given up since feb 1st this year <insert YAYS here>. I started smoking when i was a first year apprentice chef. All the chefs/kitchen hands smoked... It was a busy kitchen and the only way u got a break was to smoke! lol ...
In the kitchen i run now about 95% of the total staff smoke..
It was hard to give it up (and still is) if your thinking about starting dont!
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Old 04-26-2001, 08:15 PM
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I would love to reply with some smoker/non-smoker thing but I just can't. The bottom line is breaks. One who smokes is no more entitled to a break than one who does not smoke. Breaks are breaks. They're not designed to feed a habit but to soothe the soul. They're designed to "break" from the routine. What one chooses to do on ones break is their decision.
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Old 04-27-2001, 08:59 AM
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I work in a restaurant where everyone smokes. The worst part is there isn't even a designated smoking area. The DINING ROOM MANAGAER was smoking a cigarette while she was making a salad! I almost walked out of the job right there. I pride myself on being a professional and that has got to be the most unprofessional thing I have ever seen. I have discussed this with the owners and they just don't seem to care. This place doesn't even have a non-smoking section in the dining room. Personally, I would rather the waitresses go outside to smoke than do it right in my kitchen. Also, I quit almost a year ago and I agree 100% that smoking and cooking is like drunk driving, what a clever analogy!
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