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10-04-2005, 08:08 AM
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| | Raw Milk One of the farmer's at market sells raw cow milk.....actually legally. It's unpasturized, unhomogenized.....thus the cream separates and is at the top of the jar.
What would you make with raw milk? | 
10-04-2005, 09:52 AM
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| | Are you sure it is legal? I thought all raw milk, aged for less than 60 days was illegal? When I was growing up in Vermont we bought raw milk. We would let it separate and then we made our own butter with the cream. It was my brother's and my job to churn it while watching Saturday morning cartoons. My parents had an old antique glass butter churner. It was a large, square glass jar fitted with a metal top. Through the top ran what looked like an old fashioned egg beater, hand cranked, except instead of beaters it had four large paddles. | 
10-04-2005, 10:11 AM
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| | don't know about the rules here but it was a delicacy to drink raw milk back home.
though there are dangers associated with it - but just like sushi, if you drink it really fresh - chances of contamination would be less
you can use it like regular milk however, one thing to be cautious about - it has insane amount of fats! this is because the commercial vendors have yet to go through it using all kinds of separation techniques...
btw, a very simple sweet that can be made is by = boiling the milk
letting it cool - at room temperature till a thick layer of cream coagulates on the top. (based on personal preference, you can either refrigerate or keep it at room temperature) remove it with a spatula. its naturally sweet and in case you want - some powdered sugar on top. enjoy! | 
10-04-2005, 10:22 AM
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| | cheese. Can't find it in my area. | 
10-04-2005, 01:53 PM
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| | Chees is the best application for it. In the fervor to keep us from barfing, the regulatory agencies have killed off all the friendly bacteria that can make cheese taste so good.
Everthing these days is designed for safety in a mass processed world. This is why when you find a small artisanal cheesemaker, you should buy their stuff and help keep them in business. | 
10-04-2005, 04:40 PM
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| | Missouri has regs that say a farmer's market is just like selling off your farm and selling milk retail to a direct customer is copasetic. So the chicken/egg farmer has some jersey's and is selling the milk. Though the farmstead cheese makers will not even touch selling raw milk with a ten foot pole.
Santa Fe Market has a farmstead goat cheese maker that sells, raw milk, kefir and yogurt......
I found raw milk in Santa Monica, CA at Whole Foods. | 
10-09-2005, 08:37 AM
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| | I say come up with a cheese accented with mushrooms! I know I love champignon camembert!
__________________ Life is a banquet, and most poor suckers are starving to death! Auntie Mame | 
10-09-2005, 09:29 AM
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| | My FIL keeps telling stories about how he used to drink milk "straight from the cow." I gotta get him some. He'll love it. | 
10-09-2005, 05:39 PM
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| | It's sweeter than the normal grocery stuff and has more nuiances.....
I met a student this weekend that made raw buffalo milk mozz.....apparently the supplier shipped the wrong milk....oh well YUMMY!!! | 
10-09-2005, 09:35 PM
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| | Hello
I haven't seen that in a very long time. But you can do plenty with it. First Boil it and let it cool, with the cream that forms on top just make butter ( though you have to whip a lot) try mixing salt and herbs. We have a very good dessert back home, just take the milk, boil it, add sugar and vanilla, cut the milk with lemon juice and some lemon peel, and add some raisins. Just let it coagulate until it separates in little crumbs, it is really good.
g'luck!! | 
10-11-2005, 12:34 AM
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| | McGee's lastest version of On Food & Cooking has his first chapter on milk and has plenty of great things to say about fresh, raw milk. Check it out. | 
10-15-2005, 10:57 AM
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| | shroomgirl,
Kind of on the same subject. There is a place called the cheese store in beverly hills that I used to buy a lot of cheese from. Anyway if you make friends with the workers there you can get aged unpasteurized cheese.
Last edited by toddlove8845; 10-15-2005 at 11:01 AM.
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10-15-2005, 02:57 PM
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| | same thing in STL.....it's just like an artisinal product made with great ingredients the nuiances just make it that much more wonderful. | 
10-16-2005, 04:25 PM
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| | I would love to get raw milk in this area! IN makes it illegal to eat anything good. Try some truffle infused ricotta...absolute heaven. And very easy to make. The butter and cream from raw milk will make it hard to go back to the processed stuff.
Can you ship me some?!?!? | 
10-17-2005, 08:45 AM
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| | come visit and bring a cooler.....the milk guy is doing incredible business, several families bring in their ice chests and load up. They have fresh Thanksgiving turkeys you can order too. Pecans will show the middle of Nov.
It's a beautiful market right now. |  |
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