Professional Chefs Forum Discuss with other professional chefs the latest trends, kitchen and employee issues and more.


Reply
 
Thread Tools
  #16  
Old 01-22-2006, 01:59 PM
Ma Facon's Avatar
Ma Facon Offline
Registered User
Culinary Experience: Professional Chef
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Mn. From Wisconsin
Posts: 348
Default

We should not be judged, Our results should be. So, Does a chef or a cook produce finer results ?
__________________
http://www.frappr.com/chefsunited
One time a guy pulled a knife on me. I could tell it wasn't a professional job; it had butter on it.- Rodney Dangerfield -



'We're ALL amateurs; It's just that some of us are more professional about it than others'. - George Carlin
Reply With Quote


  #17  
Old 01-22-2006, 08:53 PM
Suzanne's Avatar
Suzanne Offline
ChefTalk Moderator
Culinary Experience: Professional Chef
 
Join Date: May 2001
Location: New York, NY
Posts: 3,748
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by David Chenelle
. . .
A great cook can look through your cupboards and make a great meal out of nothing. A great cook can look at almost impossible odds and somehow forge an unforgettable meal. A great cook has an intimate knowledge of FLAVOR. Whether it comes in a pinch of salt or reducing a stock to its final and ultimate rich expression across your palate. . . .
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mannlicher
A great cook has technique down cold. A great cook knows why things happen to the food he/she is cooking and under what circumstances. A great cook knows ingredients. A great cook does not cut corners, with technique or ingredients. A great cook LOVES to cook.
These two are the best posts I've seen here. Which is to say they are the ones I agree with.

All I can add is: A great cook understands the importance of TEXTURE and APPEARANCE as well. And: A great cook is one who follows my orders without giving me an argument, because s/he knows I'm right!
__________________
Co-Moderator, Cooking Questions
"Notorious stickler" -- The New York Times, January 4, 2004

Last edited by Suzanne; 01-22-2006 at 08:55 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #18  
Old 01-27-2006, 12:45 PM
Jolly Roger Offline
Banned
Culinary Experience: Professional Chef
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Posts: 164
Default The six "P"'s

What makes the difference is obeying a few cardinal laws. First and foremost is Mise en plas which emphasizes the importance of forethought. This brings us to the six "P"'s: Propper Preparation Prevents Piss Poor Performance. Second is balance in flavors and seasonings.I.E.; never season your stock. Allow the natural flavor of your stock to enhance your end product; you can always add, but not take away. And third, respect for your knives and other equipment. As far as difference between a chef and a cook is that a chef a is a great cook that works as a manager.
Reply With Quote
  #19  
Old 01-28-2006, 12:53 AM
chef from va's Avatar
chef from va Offline
Registered User
Culinary Experience: Culinary Student
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Virginia, USA
Posts: 100
Default great cook vrs good cook

personaly i feel that a GREAT cook is:

clean- keeping a clean station while you are getting raped by a wave is not easy but extremely important

fast- can think on their feet even in one of the hottest, most stressful, and dangerous professions around

controlled- even though all the best cooks and chefs i have ever met are a touch crazy when the pressure is on they know just how to control the situation and themselves

forgiving- even though we get realy pissed at eachother from time to time on the line the next day there are no grudges, its a new day and a new series of stumbling blocks to overcome

jovial- nothing helps a hard push like a good laugh

burns/ battlescars- a good set of burns means dedication to the profession, mistakes that hopefully lessons have been learned from and bragging rights (i had 400F pomodoro sauce land right here its like Napalm! had a blister 1/2" high!)

and last but certainly not least
PASSION- the passion for cooking is something that cannot be taught and it cannot be forced the love and caring for the items not just at the final stage but all the way through the cooking process from prep to plating and feeling your heart sink into your chest when a dish comes back and the guest didnot know that pitsburg means black and blue litteraly
__________________
i pledge my professional knowladge and skill to the advancement of our profession and to pass it on to those that are to follow..... ACF pledge
Reply With Quote
  #20  
Old 02-04-2006, 05:12 AM
AprilB Offline
Registered User
Culinary Experience: Professional Chef
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Posts: 578
Default Good cook/great cook

I would have to requalify Julia Childs as awesome.

A chef is a great cook with artistic flair. (...and a little bit of creative insanity, artistic license, fancy schmancy...whatever)

A Good cook is someone that can follow a recipe.

A Great cook makes it better.

A Good cook sees a plate of food as ... well... something to eat that tastes good.

A Great cook is someone whose whole being envelopes every dish they prepare.

A Great cook cooks with passion.

A GREAT cook's whole life is preparing great food.

Smell, touch, sight, taste...
Very sensual....

April
Reply With Quote
  #21  
Old 02-04-2006, 09:05 AM
Laprise Offline
Registered User
Culinary Experience: Professional Chef
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Kelowna, BC
Posts: 130
Default Attitude

One major thing that can make a difference, "ATTITUDE"

if you hire a cook with the right attitude, you are half way there. You can teach cooking skills, but attitude is not an easy thing to teach someone.
__________________
Martin Laprise
Author of "My daughter wants to Be a Chef!"
www.thechefinstead.ca

“A cook who invest a few bucks every week is a smart cook"
Reply With Quote
  #22  
Old 02-04-2006, 12:53 PM
Andrew Hope Offline
Registered User
Culinary Experience: Line Cook
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: B.C, Canada
Posts: 56
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Laprise
If I had to pick one things, I would have to say SALT!

A great cook/chef can control salt level to perfection and make all the flavours come out together in harmony For some cooks this could take a life time!

Most cooks forget to salt their dish properly and create master that turn out a touch blend

AND that's all I have to say about that
My chef taught me to use seasoning salt on every thing because its more forgiving if i over do it... Not sure if i agree with it (I personally have low salt tolerance, I hate really salty food so I need assume people like it more salty then me)
Reply With Quote
  #23  
Old 02-04-2006, 03:13 PM
Andrew563's Avatar
Andrew563 Offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: washington state
Posts: 199
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Laprise
One major thing that can make a difference, "ATTITUDE"

if you hire a cook with the right attitude, you are half way there. You can teach cooking skills, but attitude is not an easy thing to teach someone.
Perfectly said, attitude is everything. With the right attitude you can do everything.
__________________
My life, my choice.....
Reply With Quote
  #24  
Old 02-06-2006, 07:39 PM
Laprise Offline
Registered User
Culinary Experience: Professional Chef
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Kelowna, BC
Posts: 130
Default Attitude

I just spoke at another high school about becoming a chef, too funny! This time it was a great group of kids with good questions...

I could see 3 kids with amazing attitude that would make great cooks...

I have seen poor attitude on amazingly talented cooks and they get nowhere... No one wants to promote a cook with a bad attitude! The last things they need is more power to mix with a poor attitude
__________________
Martin Laprise
Author of "My daughter wants to Be a Chef!"
www.thechefinstead.ca

“A cook who invest a few bucks every week is a smart cook"
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks


Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are Off

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Good shoes for the home cook? Nantzie Food & Cooking Questions and Discussion 12 12-15-2006 04:41 AM
What makes a written recipe good? bad? Suzanne Food & Cooking Questions and Discussion 21 09-22-2006 10:26 AM
What makes food 'good'? Mikeb Food & Cooking Questions and Discussion 5 06-09-2006 08:45 AM
What Makes A Good Peppermill? jte1130 Cooking Equipment Reviews 11 01-25-2006 04:37 PM
The Good Cook Book Club Pete CookBook Reviews 50 05-21-2001 05:17 PM