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09-26-2006, 08:42 AM
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| | Charcuterie...... this may belong under pork bellies but I'm athinkn' that pork bellies are braised the majority of the time for restaurant dishes.....I've got a cured bacon slab as well as pork belly coming in from a Berkshire pig fed Jersey milk....so, figured I'd go get some non-descript belly and practice prior to the good stuff showing up.
I like pancetta and I like Nueske's bacon.......I was all for letting the processor cure the belly but one of the more adventursome chefs (veal hearts in crapinettes with housemade saurkraut on potato pancake at this year's picnic, last year was braised beef cheeks with Humboldt Fog mac and cheese) asked why I didn't cure my own. Well.....making bacon and cheese appear easy until you're done and then realize that there is a real artistic nuiance to curing/making cheese.....same actually with croissants, the few times I've tried to make them the temp was either too high and melted the butter or too low for the dough to rise correctly.
So, have any of you smoked bacon/pancetta? Any suggestions? be specfic.....types of wood, smoker, length of time, cure proportions, etc....
Thanks!!!
Oh yeah, I also ordered 2" chops.....and of course the leaf lard. | 
09-26-2006, 08:57 AM
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| | Shroomgirl: Mastering the Craft of Smoking Food. This is the book just for you. I have a copy and it is quite informative concerning the art of curing: http://www.amazon.com/gp/explorer/15...70137-2696748?
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09-27-2006, 01:12 AM
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| | I have to second Kokopuffs recommendation. I just read this book and did a review of it for CT and thought it was great. Anyone serious about smoking and curing should check it out. | 
09-27-2006, 12:54 PM
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| | thanks guys, I'll check it out. | 
09-27-2006, 02:48 PM
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| | There is also a great book by Brian Polcwyn and Michael Ruhlman called Charcuterie, which I highly reccomend. Don't know if it specifically has any smoked bacon recipes in it, but it's a fantastic overall charcuterie book. | 
09-28-2006, 09:01 AM
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| | I've also got access to a whole lotta pig heads and wanna start making French pate le tete (?).....wonder what the shelf life is on it...... | 
09-28-2006, 09:09 AM
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| | I'm fluent in French and that would be pate LA tete. (Tete is feminine in French.) | 
09-28-2006, 04:00 PM
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| |  Shroom'...
Bruce Aidells in his Complete Book of Pork says
"Making bacon couldn't be easier: The process consists of soaking a chunk of pork belly or other cut for a few days in a solution of salt,sugar, curing salts, and water; then it's patted dry and cold-smoked right in the backyard kettle barbecue for several hours."
He gives a detailed recipe which is only a couple paragraphs long. If you don't have the book I can write it out for you.
Mike
Wow- you're sure lucky to have access to a "whole lotta pig heads"
Don't forget to serve the eyeballs to the guest of honor. In Turkey that's a part of banquet etiquette.
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09-29-2006, 08:41 AM
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| | You know I do have Adeill's book......wonder what he's doin' since he sold the sausage biz. His wife owns/chef at Blvd. in SF. I remember reading about him YEARS ago when he started up his sausage shop in Berkley (or SF?).....I just loved the story of the scientist that went to Europe fell in love with charcuterie and decided for a mid-life career change into artisan food making.
Ending up in Berkley (or SF?) with Acme bakery, Alice Waters....several people that were making interesting food at that time.
Remember I have access to just about any cut of any critters I want. I've got alot of farmer buddies. Pig heads are not a high demand item, and the processors usually have to pay to be rid of them.....
I had the "joy" of recieving goat gonads as a gift from a chevre maker....passed them right along to a friend that will make some great braised dish for a mutual acquaintance. It was a hoot calling up a variety of cooking buddies to find out how to cook them. One Mexican said either they can be chewy or braised to the point of mush....but use alot of red wine to cut the muskiness. | 
09-29-2006, 09:59 AM
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| | Shroomgirl:
Would his sausage shop have been named PIG BY THE TAIL located in Berkeley and closed its doors in the 80's? Acme Bakery was located a few miles north in Kensington and just around the corner from Narsai's Restaurant that has been long shuttered, I believe. | 
09-29-2006, 01:22 PM
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| | Home cured bacon and Pigs' Ears recipes From a BBQ wesbite thread on makin' bacon:
Start with fresh pork bellies. I cured mine in batches about 2 pounds each with the skin still on but the ribs removed. These are modified from the book Charcuterie by Ruhlman & Polcyn and by no means perfect. Feel free to add to the recipe and make it better.
Maple Cured Bacon
Trim your belles so they are pretty square. Mix 1/4 cup Morton Tenderquick with 1/2 cup of maple syrup (at this point i did add some honey and brown suger too). Mix it up and put in a nonreactive container (I use ziploc bags. See below the garlic recipe for further instructions.
Garlic Cured
It takes around 1/4 cup for a large chunk, but what is needed it taking Morton Tenderquick and Laying the peice on it. Then take the peice and do it on all the surfaces . Tap it lightly anthing that stays on is enough. Then add 4-6 crushed garlic cloves, 2 tablespoons of crushed peppercorns, and two crushed bay leaves. Spread the mixture over the belly and add to the bag.
Put bags in the fridge and flip every other day for 7 days.
Remove and rinse the bellies.
Let them air dry (I skipped this last time due to being in a hurry still turned out good).
Fire up the smoker. I used two midsized (slighlty less than baseball sized) chunks of apple.
Smoke them till they reach 150 degrees. I did mine at a lid temp of 200 degrees.
Pull off the smoker and remove the skin while they are still hot. Slice off a bit and sample your creation!
This book recommends frying a small peice to see if it's too salty. If you think it is it recommends blanching the bacon in simmering water for 1 minute to reduce the saltiness.
Fry the bacon. If your cure had a lot of sugar such as the maple cured or honey you wil want to fry your bacon on a lower heat so the sugar doesn't burn.
`````````````````````````````````````````` And one for "Galician Pigs' Ears" from a U.S. transplant to Spain:
Here we go, pigs' ears for four. Good, cheap eatin´.
Ingredients:
2 pigs' ears
1 onion
1 sprig parsley
Water
Virgen olive oil
Hot paprika, preferably the smoked Spanish kind. (If you only have sweet paprika, add some cayenne to it.)
Kosher salt
Instructions:
Cover the ears, the onion and the parsley with water. Cook in a pressure cooker for about 12 minutes from the time steam starts to come out of the valve or, if you're using a regular pot, for about 30 minutes from the time the water starts to boil.
Take the ears out of the pot and cut them in two-inch strips. Serve them (traditionally on a wooden plate) sprinkled with some of the Kosher salt, the paprika and the olive oil.
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09-30-2006, 07:02 PM
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| | Thank you Henry! I love maple bacon.....sweet salty crunchy chewy....yummmmm
Would his sausage shop have been named PIG BY THE TAIL located in Berkeley and closed its doors in the 80's? Acme Bakery was located a few miles north in Kensington and just around the corner from Narsai's Restaurant that has been long shuttered, I believe.
Not sure what the name of the sausage shop was....funny story about Narsai's. My mother, brother and I used to travel....dining as we went. As a teenager I got to pick a restaurant on our trip to SF gotta be late 70's. I chose Narsai David. My younger by 15 mos. brother sat and listened to the litany of aps spewed by the waiter. After asking him to repeat the offerings, my cherub brother asked him if they didn't have anything other than innerds.
I was soooo embarrassed, now it seems hilarious....poor kid, hauled to a fine dining restaurant and everything is non-familiar and virtually pretty gross sounding. Aw, well I do it to his children now.....they wanna know if Aunt Julie is going to take them to a restaurant with snails or other "weird" food. | 
10-01-2006, 01:22 AM
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10-02-2006, 11:20 PM
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| | Charcuterie by Polcyn and Ruhlman is a good working book. It is said to be written for the ambitious home cook. The batches are easily expanded and is very useful for the medium sized pro kitchen. Highly recomended. Plan on doing sausage as well. It is easy and versatile (no you don't want to stuff a batch using nothing but a pastry bag)
I also have a book from the French series on Profesional Charcuterie (by Marcel Cottenceau) which contains many old-school (aka aspic galore)techniques. You should see the old banquet pig's heads in this book. They are glazed and stuffed with varieties of pates formed in leaf lard to make decorative paterns. This is a hard to come by book (aka $$$). I would work-out a loaner agreement with you, but this is bad timing. I am currently establishing my charcuterie program in the kitchen. Remind me in a few months if you are interested.
I do have a few dozen files in my charcuterie folder. Contact me if you would like me to email them to you.
I have cured pork bellies in the past. It is easy. Not any harder than curing a side of salmon (just takes longer). I never fine-tuned the smoking for the bacon. I found that the cheap bellies I had in stock were not worth the effort(although having salt pork in the freezer is handy). I am going to bring in bellies from a local farmer for my next run. Pancetta is just as easy but you must hang it to develop the flavor (no smoke). I do not have a controlled environment to do so, so I have not attempted it. Lack of humidity might be a problem here.
I have ducks coming in tomorow for confit, sausage, and stock. | 
10-03-2006, 08:35 AM
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| | I just found out that my chicken guy has been selling feet for stock.....where have I been?!!!
Also have access to local ducks, how cool is that? |  | |
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