Can't find a chef, let's blame Gordon Ramsay

[tcapper]

I realise that this is a story featured in an English local newspaper, but we had some discussions earlier this month relating to Ramsay and his New York critics review, so I thought this might be interesting.

http://www.yorkshiretoday.co.uk/View...icleID=1966787

I have started a thread on chefsworld so if you would like to have your say (We are all chefs at the end of the day) please feel free.

Thanks Guys, input appreciated.

www.chefsworld.net

[panini]

It's so sad. The guy has an anger management problem. To write it of as a show is irresponsible. I have first hand knowledge. He can be an -ss in the kitchen

[felixe the dog]

Typical, the publican can't get any applicants so it must be the result of a 1 hr TV show? - yeah right!!

Without going to the pub, it is impossible to acertain why the owner cannot recruit more staff, but to blame Gordon Ramsey and a TV show is ridiculous.

I find it ridiculous that someone would base their career decisions solely on (mis)information gleaned from a TV show.

[mredikop]

I guess everyone needs a scapegoat. In my case Gordon Ramsay helped convince me that being a chef is indeed what I want. Not so I can abuse people and be a jerk but because it helped me realize even more that you can be an individual and be YOURSELF in a kitchen which doesn't play in the corporate world. You have to be an automaton in the corporate realm and conform to societal "norms" where as in the kitchen being "quirky" is a blessing.

[JackButler]

The only thing Gordon Ramsey ever convinced me of was that Gordon Ramsey needed a sharp rap in the teeth.

[Jayme]

Interesting that there is no mention of payscale, working conditions, hours required, perks, etc... there is a mention of "countryside" (rural?)- but that's it. I would think that those would be a reason to have difficulty drawing a new chef.... not Ramsey. That would be like saying all the new chef's in the US won't learn complicated dishes because of Rachel Ray...?? how absurd!

[powers]

Yeah, I'm actually going into a different line of work now because I saw "the F word" on TV the other night and it really made me think that chefs are a**holes.....................HA
I think of it as a good thing. The kids that are "smart" enough to believe everything they see on TV and think that a being a chef is a layed back career need to be weeded out. I don't have any particular opinion about him being that I've never eaten his food, nor worked with or even met the guy. I hope that the kids with the real passion for food stick around. I don't think that this really effects our industry in a negative way at all. I'm sure Rachel Ray will bring more kids in than Gordan turns away.

I was just sitting here thinking, when I was growing up everyone spent all their time talking about sports. I love football and baseball, but not enough to keep up with players, stats, etc. I'm really glad I now have something to "man-gossip", I mean talk about. From bobby g@y, I mean flay.......to now Gordon Ramsay. Thanks

[Jayme]

Originally Posted by powers

Yeah, I'm actually going into a different line of work now because I saw "the F word" on TV the other night and it really made me think that chefs are a**holes.....................HA
I think of it as a good thing. The kids that are "smart" enough to believe everything they see on TV and think that a being a chef is a layed back career need to be weeded out. I don't have any particular opinion about him being that I've never eaten his food, nor worked with or even met the guy. I hope that the kids with the real passion for food stick around. I don't think that this really effects our industry in a negative way at all. I'm sure Rachel Ray will bring more kids in than Gordan turns away.

I was just sitting here thinking, when I was growing up everyone spent all their time talking about sports. I love football and baseball, but not enough to keep up with players, stats, etc. I'm really glad I now have something to "man-gossip", I mean talk about. From bobby g@y, I mean flay.......to now Gordon Ramsay. Thanks

gossip???? here in a chef forum??? NEVER...LOL ! (or always....)
every industry has it's dirt!!!

[Daiz]

Apologies for my first post on here, i will introduce myself soon, but this topic caught my eye.

If the younger mid twenties(like me) or older think kitchens are bad cause of Ramsey there having a bubble bath !

I remember my first week in a ''galley'' i gobbed off at my sous chef.

My first broken nose of my carear so far....

Kinda picked it up slowly what it was like, now i love it.

Our problem is the public think its a rough world/job as we have passion and we graft for a living. Sometimes it means ripping the **** out of a commi chef for not pulling there weight etc...

Anyway im off to bed......i'll do an intro tomorrow lol

[Jayme]

Diaz,
welcome aboard- broken nose? from your sous? geez cooking in England is tougher than I thought...LOL

[Daiz]

Just a bit of disapline does the trick

[Panonthefire]

to blame Gordon Ramsey for is lack of applicant is ridiculous. The show is about Ramsay and his attitude and that is what brings the ratings up.

If young cook cant figure that out then somebody as to tell them.

When we talk about being a cook and take the heat of the kitchen, some people will go to extreme to take the heat. some others wont.

Anyway, this guy in the article will not start a revolution in the field. kitchen are tough and the will stay tough. because in the end, the client pays for good food, the way the employee is treated to make is food is not really is problem, when the client sits down he is hungry.

[Jayme]

Originally Posted by Daiz

Just a bit of disapline does the trick

So who is doing the disciplining? the sous? or your KM? LOL
Maybe Ramsey isn't as tough as we thought..... has he ever worked with you?? LOL
We all know that Ramsey's gruffness is exaggerated and expected- it brings up the ratings!

[chefboy2160]

I have watched Gordons show twice and thats all I can handle. Chefs and people like him are allowed to continue there behavior because normal people allow his behavior for his supposed talent and creativity. People like Gordon are nothing more than bullys who need to be stood up to. I wonder what the producers would do if an employee told him to stuff it and could back it up?
Gordon should be an inspiration to aspiring chefs to change the type of leadership in the culinary world.Rant over......

[voodoo5]

Originally Posted by chefboy2160

I have watched Gordons show twice and thats all I can handle. Chefs and people like him are allowed to continue there behavior because normal people allow his behavior for his supposed talent and creativity. People like Gordon are nothing more than bullys who need to be stood up to. I wonder what the producers would do if an employee told him to stuff it and could back it up?
Gordon should be an inspiration to aspiring chefs to change the type of leadership in the culinary world.Rant over......

This is my first post on this forum...
I actually think people get a little overworked about Ramsay's tone and vernacular. Its just swear words and shouting. Most of what he says is quite logical, and taken from the perspective of wanting to be the best, a high amount of intensity is behind that vernacular. Not trying to excuse anything...just dont think anything needs excusing.