Professional Chefs Forum Discuss with other professional chefs the latest trends, kitchen and employee issues and more.


Reply
 
Thread Tools
  #1  
Old 07-19-2008, 01:36 AM
cerupert Offline
Registered User
Culinary Experience: Line Cook
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Fort Collins
Posts: 9
Default Changes to the Kitchen

I am currently in the planning stages of opening a kitchen down the road. I have my ideas of how I would like a kitchen designed but was looking for other suggestions. In the kitchens you have worked in or are working in what is one of the favorite features you have worked with or one thing you would never do again and dont like. Thanks for the input.
C
Reply With Quote


  #2  
Old 07-19-2008, 01:52 AM
tessa's Avatar
tessa Offline
Registered User
Culinary Experience: Professional Chef
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Auckland New Zealand
Posts: 580
Blog Entries: 6
Default

coming from the perspective of a short chef maybe dont have things up too high , its a real pain not to be able to look in to the salamandar because its above your head
__________________
when life hands you lemons, make lemon gelee, lemon meringue pie, or any other dessert your heart desires

www.theunknownchef.com
www.theunknownchef.co.nz
www.shoebridge.co.nz
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 07-19-2008, 10:39 AM
foodpump Offline
Registered User
Culinary Experience: Professional Chef
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Vancouver, Canada
Posts: 1,253
Default

The one word that separates a commercial kitchen from a home kitchen is infrastructure...

Before you start looking at smaller features of a commercial kitchen, you have to look at the big features. A 500 ccc engine could fit into a Cadillac, but it wouldn't work very well. The kitchen size is based on the size of a dining room, the layout and equipment is based on what the kitchen sells.

The first and most important thing you'll need is a ventilation system. It's not just a s/s box with some filters hanging above the stove. In order to pass local fire codes, the system has to be designed by a mechanical engineer, and it's the shaft or ductwork that will cost anywhere from $2,000 for a very simple operation to over $40,000 for an elaborate one. Then you need the fans themselves, one for intake, one for exhaust, (if you only had an exhaust fan, what would you breathe?) and an a/c unit for tempered make up air. Then the hood itself, then the fire suppression system (or Ansul sysem )

Then there's the plumbing: Grease trap(most municipalities demand a minimum of 55 gal. size) hot water heaters, sinks, floor drains, drains for a/c units/ ice machines, etc.

If you have gas, you still need a minimum of a 200 amp 3 phase service.


That's the big stuff, pay very close attention to it, once the money's spent, it'll cost waaaay more to fix if you decide to re-locate something.

Once you've got the big stuff out of the way, the smaller details take care of themselves....
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 07-19-2008, 09:09 PM
Kona Offline
Registered User
Culinary Experience: Professional Chef
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Posts: 27
Default

A couple of things that I love is a water faucet by my stove. a small freezer on my line.
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 07-19-2008, 10:57 PM
cerupert Offline
Registered User
Culinary Experience: Line Cook
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Fort Collins
Posts: 9
Default

Thanks foodpump for the info but those things are standard in a kitchen. Kona thanks for your response thats kind of the things im looking for. Just little details that are overlooked or cant be applied to a already existing kitchen.
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 07-20-2008, 01:16 AM
cheflayne Offline
Registered User
Culinary Experience: Professional Chef
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Volcano, CA soon to be Caribbean
Posts: 298
Default

A 3 foot flexible line, shoulder height spigot on the line for filling stock pots, pasta pots, etc.

Power outlets on the line.
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 07-20-2008, 05:59 AM
the_seraphim Offline
Registered User
Culinary Experience: Professional Chef
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Posts: 176
Default

i used to have a catering style instant boiling water tap (mostly ended up being used for coffee... v important....) but its handy to fill a pot with hot water, saves time waiting for it to get hot on the stove
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 07-20-2008, 10:33 AM
adamm Offline
Registered User
Culinary Experience: Line Cook
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Posts: 233
Default

A hose/hookup for a hose so when cleaning the hood all you have to do is hit them with degreaser and hose them off.
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 07-20-2008, 06:45 PM
cheflayne Offline
Registered User
Culinary Experience: Professional Chef
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Volcano, CA soon to be Caribbean
Posts: 298
Default

Floor drains and all equipment on casters with enough flex line for gas lines that all equipment can be pulled out easily and safely for steam cleaning.
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 08-02-2008, 08:42 PM
Sleepy_Dragon Offline
Registered User
Culinary Experience: Line Cook
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Seattle, WA
Posts: 56
Default

Doors to lowboys open in the right direction. And by right, I mean according to where the cooks actually work, so they can reach into them without needing to reach over the door.

Especially critical if two cooks work shoulder to shoulder sharing the one lowboy between them.

Ease of dirty pan collection and restocking by dish crew.

Ease of assembly and taking apart for deep cleaning.

Repair people who actually fix the wangdang problem with the equipment, rather than just showing up, having a look, then disappearing and not coming back, but you still get stuck with a big stoopit bill. But I suppose that gets into fantasyland wishful thinking.
Reply With Quote
  #11  
Old 08-04-2008, 10:02 PM
Psycho Chef's Avatar
Psycho Chef Offline
Registered User
Culinary Experience: Professional Chef
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: N.Y.C.
Posts: 146
Default

handwash sinks placed where they will be used, not just crammed in the plan somewhere because the code says so. Already mentioned but important enough to be mentioned again are wheels on the equiptment and water to the stove(preferably on the opposite end as the fryer). Enough under shelf warmers to keep food in the window hot as well as plates waiting to be used hot. Rolling racks that hold full sheet pans are great space savers, leave some room for them.
__________________
Keep those fires burnin'

http://www.myspace.com/brianhavens
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks


Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are Off

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
One man kitchen vs. 4 Diamond kitchen yanny Professional Chefs Forum 3 10-01-2007 06:44 PM
Pub Kitchen in UK BombayBen Professional Chefs Forum 1 09-11-2007 04:31 PM
open kitchen or closed kitchen Andrew563 Professional Chefs Forum 29 03-16-2007 02:18 PM
new in the kitchen kitchenwitch Welcome Forum 8 10-14-2006 09:49 PM
Kitchen Mgr Russ Welcome Forum 2 09-13-2006 09:51 AM