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Old 09-08-2009, 04:32 PM
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I ask them to make me eggs over easy, eggs over medium, and an
omelet.....pretty much tells me if they can cook....once a high paced
breakfast job is mastered, you can pretty much teach them the rest.
I continue to be amazed by the amount of cooks that cannot toss eggs or
cook breakfast. Most think its beneath them and a low skill position, until the
try it.

I love eggs and they are in fact the basis of a great chef. If you can not master eggs you are not a chef.
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Old 09-08-2009, 04:49 PM
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One thing that goes a long way with making "good" eggs is a properly seasoned grill!! I do eggs well (I am on the egg station at work) and on Saturday my eggs were sucking monkey butt and I had a ton of remakes because my grill was not seasoned properly by the opener! I opened yesterday and today.. properly seasoned the grills and guess what... I was sending out some hot looking eggs!
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Old 09-08-2009, 08:23 PM
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I usually just get them to peel and cook some vegetables, sort through salad greens, and cook staff meal.

Can usually get a pretty good idea of how they work/cook from watching them do these simple tasks. Unfortunately, it's also disappointing how poorly some cooks do these tasks (make a mess peeling vegetables, cook them wrong, can't sear meat, etc...). If I don't want to kill myself watching them peel vegetables or sort greens, it's a start. At least then they can be somewhat useful in a kitchen...

Likewise, in the pastry kitchen, I get them to crack eggs and scale ingredients. If they can do that, again, they might be useful...

Personally, I could care less how well someone does a complex recipe/technique. I can teach that. You can't always teach work ethic and attention to detail.
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Old 09-10-2009, 11:23 AM
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why is a drug test so important?
i mean if you're able to work well, be promt on time, and know your cooking. then why should the fact that someone partakes be an issue for hire?
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Old 09-10-2009, 11:42 AM
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why is a drug test so important?
i mean if you're able to work well, be promt on time, and know your cooking. then why should the fact that someone partakes be an issue for hire?

Because if you get hurt on job, many places now do a spot drug test. If you are found to be under the influence, there is no work -mans comp payments or benefits to you, and you can't hold anyone responsible. By giving pre -drug test employees insurance rate is also cheaer.

Also I never ran across anyone who was under influence that I could not spot by actions, temperament or some other tell-tale trait. and I am not a Doctor or authority.
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Old 09-10-2009, 12:46 PM
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why is a drug test so important?
i mean if you're able to work well, be promt on time, and know your cooking. then why should the fact that someone partakes be an issue for hire?

first, this thread really was'nt about drug testing but about what test do you have for someones competency........and second, for gods sake use your brian man, this is all about liability and sure you may be able to do things right for a while but it will catch up to you.....
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Old 09-10-2009, 01:48 PM
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why is a drug test so important?
i mean if you're able to work well, be promt on time, and know your cooking. then why should the fact that someone partakes be an issue for hire?
Because all of those things rarely go hand in hand.
Maybe short term, but not long term.
Anyone who thinks differently is kidding themselves.

I should tell you that I used to "partake", and heavily so.
I even went through a period where I would, on a half hour break, drive 10 minutes home, take 10 minutes worth of bong hits, then 10 minutes back.
The first thing I'd do upon arriving back at work was to try to come down enough so I could function at the proper level.
I'm sure I didn't consistently achieve that.
Getting stoned also saps motivation.
I don't know how many pot smokers I've worked with that would, last minute, lose motivation to show up to work.
Let's not even get started on speed, it really takes a person out of their game.
Sure, at first it seems like they are dynamos, but shortly they can't even function at a low level without doing the drug.
Yeah, I speak from experience.
I was young and stupid once.

I'm older now.
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I am glad that you are up front. Your past makes you who you are today. Everyone here has a past.

But going back to why this thread is here, I think making people do a sauce is terrific.
Its important to know who has a true knowledge of cooking.

Have someone make a crepe ..... (like on ****'s Kitchen) that will tell you alot.
Or fillet a fish, basic souffle ,a soft boiled egg........
www.quizrocket.com/cooking-quiz/ simple questions.


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