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Old 10-06-2009, 03:19 PM
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Ahhhh ya no campfire food in my place. I would serve some salmon en papiot, but would not wrap it in foil and throw it in the fire then serve. Also as stated above from someone . I would consider dark brown garlic "roasted", darker than dark brown to me would be burnt. Their is a fine line between the two. Once you cross it you can taste it.
I would consider DARK brown garlic to be burnt, to me once you pass the line of golden/milk chocolate in color you have gone to far.
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I feel allot of chef's try to achieve this, at least in the Chicago area and where i am now. The age old question "three baby carrots tied with scallion or four". this goes deeper and deeper. To me to use food and show it for the beautiful art it is. To show a garden of eggplant, tomato's, basil, and scallions in your presentation of eggplant Parmesan the dish. Food does have a natural beauty. Do i put a sauce within a sauce and pull with a toothpick for my artistic display on the plate, or do i drizzle both sauces for a rope display? Is this what you mean? I remember a chef i worked for at a holiday inn always talking about "asymmetrical and symmetrical types of garnishing" This is what i understand you to be talking about. These are words i haven't heard in a long time lol. Rustic as in asymmetrical. Below is a pdf you should check out. I found it on the net and thought it was interesting.

http://www.therestaurantschool.com/I...esentation.pdf


I'm asking about, if this makes any sense at all, using the ingredients themselves to create the visual appeal of the dish. What comes to mind at the moment(because I've got one in the oven right now) is a roast quail with the only garnish on the plate being the carrots, shallots, potatoes, garlic, thyme, sweet onions, and celery from the bottom of the roasting dish.

No sauce flourishes, no deconstruction, no raw herbs gently gracing the top of the bird. Just food, as it came from the oven, and placed with artful purpose on the plate.

Sort of how my mom's dinners would look if she knew how to plate.
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Old 10-06-2009, 05:33 PM
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Ya i dont mind it at home but not a big selling point for me. People eat with their eyes. If it looks good they will try it. Alot of places do good with that though. applebees, fridays, or meat and potato type of places.
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I agree with billyb and chefhow....If it can't be eaten, or isn't an ingredient, then don't put it on the plate. Food should look stunning and taste better. When food is stacked in silly little piles, I just think of all the fingers that have touched the food. Food should look like food!
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what about this is this too pilled up? This is a Charlie Trotter dish.
http://www.theworldwidegourmet.com/g...lishment/6.jpg
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what about this is this too pilled up? This is a Charlie Trotter dish.
http://www.theworldwidegourmet.com/g...lishment/6.jpg
imo, that's more than I might do, but there's not too much going on there, either. It looks stunning.
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what about this is this too pilled up? This is a Charlie Trotter dish.
http://www.theworldwidegourmet.com/g...lishment/6.jpg

Its not really "pilled up" its a rolled and stuffed cabbage leaf that is standing on its end. And it is very visually appealing IMHO.
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how about this too one is this stacked up? I am just kinda trying to get a feel for your terminoligy. I have been on this site about a week and can see that one word can mean many things to many people.
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