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Old 01-07-2006, 12:24 PM
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Need an idea.
I have a wedd. cake coming up this week with a bunch of sugar on it. I designed a silhouette of a bride and groom that I am going to pour.
I will be pouring the same colors as the flowers only clear or maybe alcohol.
I want to use two colors for each figure. I don't want definate edges where the two meet. More of a blend.
I need ideas on some sort of dam, so after pouring one color, I can pour the second while still hot enough to mix. I'm going real light on the colors.
If anybody understands this, I could use some ideas. Chrose?CR?
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Old 01-07-2006, 04:05 PM
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pannini,
try an oiled piece of tinfoil curved to desired shape as high as the edges of your templet with a little wiggle room so you can pull it up and out of the way when the two hot liquid sugars meet. then you can swirl the two with a bamboo skewer if desired.
you can also try a piece of copper or thin tin/sheet metal well oiled to keep the shape. If running under the metal is a fear, use putty to hold and keep from underrunning.
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Old 01-07-2006, 04:06 PM
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Hi Pan;
Do you have a mold already made? You could use a piece of metal strapping like they use for shipping to hold boxes on. Just form it to fit between the two figures. Allow your first pour to harden slightly before pouring your second figure, then you can quickly remove it and the figures should meld together nicely. Does this help any? Is it what you were looking for?

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Old 01-07-2006, 04:07 PM
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pour both at the same time with dam in place so you can blurr the line once the metal is pulled out.
You could even use a thin strip of silpat for the dam.
send pic's once it's done
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Old 01-07-2006, 04:38 PM
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That it!
Thank you both very much! Just couldn't get the brain working. I had thoughts of the dam with metal and such, but was hesitant about putting the oil down.
A strip of silpat will be great.
In fact, I don't know if anyone has received a sample of a new one from Germany, solid brown and about half the price. That little sample will come in handy.
I was thinking of pouring together, but I have only one funnel. I'm rolling pretty thin(#3 rolling bar). So the pour will go a little tooo fast for one of my co-workers to pour at the same time. I had a vision of me pouring with a funnel in one hand and the pot in the other the vision then turned to sugar pouring over the clay, off the marble, and on to my legs
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Old 01-07-2006, 04:43 PM
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Good Luck Pan. Let me know how it turns out. CR. Hey getting a little bored with sugar know of any thing else I might be able to try my hand at for a while? Not going to quit sugar work no way just try a new avenue. Got any ideas?

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Cool idea. I'd love to see pics once it's done. What do you mean by alcohol?
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Old 01-07-2006, 07:24 PM
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i am more visual, so i didnt exactly know what you were doing, so i would also like to see pics
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I was going to say all those things, but I got to the thread after the party was over
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Momo,
I don't know the technical name. Ya know,The poured bubbly stuff. Rubbing alcohol on the parchment, then pouring a strip of sugar and lifting. As it starts to run the alcohol will form bubbles in the sugar. I know you know this, but a shot explanation anyway. Of course there may be a better way to do it.
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Old 01-08-2006, 06:25 AM
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Pan you must be talking about Bubble Sugar where you use some type of alcohol spirit such as vodka,tequila or gin a clear spirit. You can use denatured alcohol if they will not be consumed. Is this what you are talking about? If it is, let me know I have a recipe for isomalt and granulated sugar,also a how to on both.
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Yes, pan, thanks for clarifying.

I've used bubble paper years ago, but never that technique.

Much more economical.
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Old 01-08-2006, 02:57 PM
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I must be using the wrong terminology. Then again, I'm from the way old school.
CR, I would like to see recipes.
I always tell my customers the bubble sugar is not edible.
I've always just rubbed down some parchment paper with rubbing alcohol. Pour a 3-5" strip of sugar, then lift the parchment up and let the sugar run down. It forms bubbles in the sugar.
Is this what ya'll are talkin about? I hadn't seen in for a while and then over the last couple of years I've seen it back as plate garnishes and such.
If there is an easier way, I would love to know.
My ways are probably antiquated, like boiling sugar in a stock pot, pouring in royal icing and quickly throwing a stack of sheetpans on top to make rock.
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we have been using isomalt to make bubble sugar. you sandwich it between two silpats and bake it.
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Pan, I make rock that way, but why the sheetpans.

Jess, I've seen that method but never tried it. Seems so simple!
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