Go To ChefTalk.com
    Cooking ArticlesCookbook ReviewsCooking ForumsRecipesCooking Glossary  

Welcome to the ChefTalk Cooking Forums forums.

You are currently viewing our boards as a guest which gives you limited access to view most discussions and access our other features. By joining our free community you will have access to post topics, communicate privately with other members (PM), respond to polls, upload content and access many other special features. Registration is fast, simple and absolutely free so please, join our community today!

If you have any problems with the registration process or your account login, please contact contact us.

Go Back   ChefTalk Cooking Forums > Professional Food Service Forums > Professional Pastry Chef's Forum
Register Blogs Photo Gallery FAQ Members List Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read

Professional Pastry Chef's Forum A forum for professional pastry chefs and bakers.

Reply
 
Thread Tools
  #1  
Old 03-09-2008, 03:48 PM
Registered User
Culinary Experience: Culinary Student
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Florida
Posts: 17
Coosie is on a distinguished road
Default Bakers Percentages

I am currently in culinary arts taking baking this month. My 7th month in school. Gets harder the longer you're in doesn't it. Well, I will admit that I was not really paying attention 36 years ago when I barely made it through Algebra class. Now I wish I had done all that was expected of me and committed it to memory. Fractions~~ they are going to kill me! And where are they getting the numbers they get in the examples in the book? The book is Professional Baking by Wayne Gisslen. If I don't figure out bakers percentages and yields soon I think I am going to have a stroke. There must be an easy way to figure this stuff out. I will ask the Chef tomorrow to give me a one on one lesson in the mathematics of it all, but am afraid I'm not going to get it. Now how embarrassing is that going to be when you consider the Chef is a year younger than my own son. I'm probably making this harder than it really is, aren't I?

Coosie
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Sponsored links
  #2  
Old 03-09-2008, 06:06 PM
Registered User
Culinary Experience: Other
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Monroiva, CA
Posts: 522
boar_d_laze is on a distinguished road
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Coosie View Post
[snip] Well, I will admit that I was not really paying attention 36 years ago when I barely made it through Algebra class. [snip] Fractions~~ they are going to kill me! And where are they getting the numbers they get in the examples in the book? The book is Professional Baking by Wayne Gisslen. If I don't figure out bakers percentages and yields soon I think I am going to have a stroke. [snip]I'm probably making this harder than it really is, aren't I?[snip]
Coosie

Take a deep breath, open your book and look in appendix 3 for the Decimal Equivalents to Common Fractions. That should solve most of your problems, and without a calculator.

The way to convert a decimal equivalent to a percentage is as follows: 0.XY = XY% for instance, 0.375 = 37.5%. The reverse is also true: 37.5% = 0.375. This makes more sense still if you remember (or find in the appendix) that 0.375 = 3/8.

Here's an (over-simplified) example. "Basic French bread requires 25% to 33% water, by weight, depending on humidity. How much water for 1doz standard loaves?" Start with making percentages fractions. Between 1/4 (25%) and (1/3) of the total weight of the unbaked dough will be water.

Cool. Let's wrestle it to the floor. Start with your conversion constants: A pint's a pound, the world around and a standard loaf is 1.5 (1-1/2) lbs. 12 standard loaves x 1-1/2 = 12 lbs + 6 lbs = 18 lbs.

Okay?

Now, 1/4 of 18 = 4-1/2. And, 1/3 of 18 = 6.

So you need between 4-1/2 pints (2 qts plus 1 cup water) and 6 pints (3 qts) water. You can subtract the water weights from 18 lb total to determine the flour weight at between 13-1/2 and 12 pounds, since the weight of the other ingredients (yeast and salt) is negligible.

Metric conversions are easier. Forget everything you know about cups, pints, pounds, etc., and trust your measuring cups. 0.5 L will always be 500 mL. And in water will weigh 500 gm which will always be 1/2 Kg. 25% of a liter is 0.35 L is 350 mL

Cool?

If you have some specific example with which you'd like help, be more than happy to oblige.

BDL
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 03-09-2008, 06:22 PM
Registered User
Culinary Experience: Culinary Student
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Florida
Posts: 17
Coosie is on a distinguished road
Default

Wow. I think I need to wrap my head around all that for a 1/2 day or so. I'm sitting here with my book open in front of me looking at appendix 3. That definitely helps, doesn't it. Thanks tons. I will surely holler if I need any further instructions. Boy it's tough teaching this old overused brain. I did my own business taxes for 23 years. You'd think I could get this quicker.
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 03-10-2008, 04:08 AM
Registered User
Culinary Experience: Culinary Student
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 56
phoenix 12 is on a distinguished road
Default

Yeah I really think your looking into it to much. Whatever ingred. is the most in the formula will be 100%. Be it flour, sugar, or whatever. Then everything else will be a percentage of that. This will be a real simple example, but. If you have two #s of flour, and the formula calls for 50% sugar that means one #. Yes, like I said that is a very simple example. That's all there is to %s though.

Mike
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 03-10-2008, 01:52 PM
Registered User
Culinary Experience: Culinary Student
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Florida
Posts: 17
Coosie is on a distinguished road
Default

The lightbulb finally came on at about 11:30 last night and I can't believe how thick my head was!! Embarassing for someone my age. Thanks for all the help. So easy. Geeze.
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Sponsored links
Reply


Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are Off

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Bakers, I need help... ShelleyJ Cooking Equipment Reviews 8 12-22-2007 02:29 AM
Bakers' Percentages Lisbet Pastries and Baking General 8 12-02-2007 11:57 AM
Figuring out milk fat percentages phoebe Food & Cooking Questions and Discussion 6 11-23-2006 01:33 AM
Baker's Percentages KyleW Pastries and Baking General 5 08-16-2001 05:02 AM
What do bakers like to get from Santa? Live_to_cook Pastries and Baking General 31 12-27-2000 06:40 PM


All times are GMT -7. The time now is 05:18 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.6.9
Copyright ©2000 - 2008, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.1.0
© 1998 - 2006 ChefTalk.com • All rights reservedAd Management by RedTyger

1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 48 49 50 51 52 53 54 55 56 57 58 59 60 61 62 63 64 65 66 67 68 69 70 71 72 73 74 75 76 77 78 79 80 81 82 83 84 85 86 87 88 89 90 91 92 93 94 95 96 97 98 99 100 101 102 103 104 105 106 107 108 109 110 111 112 113 114 115 116 117 118 119