Go to ChefTalk.com  
Cooking ArticlesCookbook ReviewsCooking ForumsRecipesCooking Glossary  

Go Back   ChefTalk Cooking Forums > Professional Food Service Forums > Professional Pastry Chefs Forum

Professional Pastry Chefs Forum A forum for professional pastry chefs and bakers.


Reply
 
Thread Tools
  #1  
Old 04-27-2002, 09:21 PM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Nov 2000
Location: Birmingham, AL
Posts: 175
Default Another tempering question

When tempering chocolate, if you go above the recomended temp when you are first melting it, will it prevent the chocolate from tempering? If so, how do you fix it? let it cool to room temp and start over?

I was tempering chocolate the other day and wasn't paying close enough attn and it got well over 120. I didn't think it would matter as long as I cooled it properly. However it didn't temper.

I was using Hersheys semi-sweet chips. Could that make a difference?

Thanks in advance.
Reply With Quote


  #2  
Old 04-28-2002, 02:19 PM
m brown's Avatar
ChefTalk Moderator
Culinary Experience: Professional Pastry Chef
 
Join Date: May 1999
Location: Outside Dallas, BABY!!!
Posts: 2,315
Blog Entries: 1
Default

e-
are these chips couveture or toll house chips? if they are toll house chips chances are they have shortening in them and tempering may not work, couveture should be seeded to temper by adding a portion of unmelted, solid chocolate to the chocolate before tempering. this may bring a normal level of temp to temper. dig?

overheating melts the sugar and fats at too high a temp causing them to purhaps refuse to resolidify. adding a portion of untempered or tempered at factory will bring back a balance of fat and sugar willing to resolidify.

have fun.

if the chocolate will not temper, add cream and make ganach! or use as an ingredient in a cake or icing or ice cream.

unless totally burnt, never waste chocolate!
__________________
bake first, ask questions later.
Oooh food, my favorite!

http://www.myspace.com/chefmbrown

Professor Culinary and Pastry Arts
www.CCCCD.edu
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 04-28-2002, 02:46 PM
ShawtyCat's Avatar
Registered User
 
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: Jersey
Posts: 1,035
Default

Hey M Brown,

Where do you get those couveture chips??? My supermarket only carries toll house. Is there an online supplier you can buy these at? TIA

Eyeore,

You are a godsend...I haven't had to ask too many questions lately...just been reading the great threads you have started. Thanks! Maybe you'll give me a chance to ask some.

Jodi
__________________
Jodi


I don't know about you but I think I need a nap.
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 04-28-2002, 07:30 PM
m brown's Avatar
ChefTalk Moderator
Culinary Experience: Professional Pastry Chef
 
Join Date: May 1999
Location: Outside Dallas, BABY!!!
Posts: 2,315
Blog Entries: 1
Default

couveture chips are block pure chocolate in chip form.
__________________
bake first, ask questions later.
Oooh food, my favorite!

http://www.myspace.com/chefmbrown

Professor Culinary and Pastry Arts
www.CCCCD.edu
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 04-29-2002, 12:15 PM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jun 2001
Location: oregon
Posts: 486
Default

yes.. if melted to much then you surely need to temper using the seeding method... by adding a block of chocolate in and stiring until took. that kinda set the crystals in the chocolate and "shows" them how to set.. if that makes since.

dont use toll house... if that is all you can get.. go to a craft store and purchase coating chocolate. it just needs to be melted.. no tempering with that. they use vege oil instead of cocoa butter. it is cheaper which i sorta nice.

best of luck
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 04-29-2002, 12:59 PM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Nov 2000
Location: Birmingham, AL
Posts: 175
Default

Thank you all.

Ive decided it is the chocolates fault and not mine.

I tried to temper it again and I was VERY careful with the temperature. I was sure it was tempered because it set fairly quickly when I put a little on marble. But no.. they bloomed the next day. I decided to freeze some before they bloomed and I guess Ill just put them out right before service.

Meantime..it is obvious I need to find a source for some decent chocolate.

ps. Actually the first time I did use the seeding method.
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks


Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are Off

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Tempering Chocolate longfellow Pastries and Baking General 4 08-11-2008 06:20 PM
tempering chocolate redsam Pastries and Baking General 4 07-22-2007 05:58 PM
Tempering gianduja? Ganache8 Professional Pastry Chefs Forum 3 07-03-2004 11:12 PM
Tempering - A Lesson Kimmie Pastries and Baking General 11 07-31-2002 08:38 PM
tempering chocolate? bakerchik Professional Pastry Chefs Forum 7 02-16-2001 06:47 PM


All times are GMT -7. The time now is 11:55 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.3
Copyright ©2000 - 2008, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Search Engine Friendly URLs by vBSEO 3.2.0
© 1998 - 2008 ChefTalk.com • All rights reserved

1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 48 49 50 51 52 53 54 55 56 57 58 59 60 61 62 63 64 65 66 67 68 69 70 71 72 73 74 75 76 77 78 79 80 81 82 83 84 85 86 87 88 89 90 91 92 93 94 95 96 97 98 99 100 101 102 103 104 105 106 107 108 109 110 111 112 113 114 115 116 117 118 119 120 121 122 123 124 125