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Old 11-19-2007, 04:55 AM
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Vegetarian French onion soup? Other than subbing veggie stock for the beef broth, what else would it take? Everything else already is vegetarian (lacto/ovo).
Earlier in this thread someone posted this soup idea:

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Both vegetarian, but so different [...] Lentil soup made with a smoked ham shank, carrots, swede. onions and seasoning ...
A vegetarian soup with a smoked ham shank - sheesh! And this from an "owner/operator"

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Old 11-19-2007, 05:06 AM
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Vegetarian French onion soup? Other than subbing veggie stock for the beef broth, what else would it take? Everything else already is vegetarian (lacto/ovo).
Yep that's it exactly..but to be a true vegan soup you'd have to eliminate the delichious melty cheese topping..lol.

with the cheese it's still not lacto vegan
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>with the cheese it's still not lacto vegan<

I'm not going to get in an argument as to what constitutes which brand of vegetarian. If you think lacto (which is defined as milk and milk products) doesn't include cheese, that's your perogative.

If you don't want the cheese, leave it out. But as far back as the origninal Moosewood Cookbook Molly Katzen suggested topping the soup with croutons and grated cheese, and that's good enough for me.
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>Earlier in this thread someone posted this soup idea:<

Shel, I don't begin to understand the point of your post. Are you saying that a soup with no meat or meat product component is the same as a soup with a ham shank in it?

Maybe you need to learn how French onion soup is made? The only relationship it has to meat is the beef broth. Take that away and there's nothing in it but vegetable products and, if you make it true to form, melted cheese.

Now, if you want to get truly technical, there is no such thing as a vegetarian French onion soup, because the true gelt is made with beef broth. So, substituting veggie stock or water makes it an onion soup in the style of French onion soup. But it can never actually be it.
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Old 11-19-2007, 07:23 AM
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>Earlier in this thread someone posted this soup idea:<

Shel, I don't begin to understand the point of your post. Are you saying that a soup with no meat or meat product component is the same as a soup with a ham shank in it?
No, not at all. I just found it odd that someone in the business would consider a soup made with a smoked ham shank to be vegetarian. Perhaps it wasn't explained clearly in my post. It was early here ...

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Old 11-19-2007, 07:32 AM
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>with the cheese it's still not lacto vegan<

I'm not going to get in an argument as to what constitutes which brand of vegetarian. If you think lacto (which is defined as milk and milk products) doesn't include cheese, that's your perogative.

If you don't want the cheese, leave it out. But as far back as the origninal Moosewood Cookbook Molly Katzen suggested topping the soup with croutons and grated cheese, and that's good enough for me.
I think you misunderstood...and it could be my terrible grammer also....What I was trying to say, was that exchanging the beef broth out on a French onion soup to a veggie stock doesn't make it a true vegan version if you're still using the cheese topping.

But for those vegans that just don't eat meat, and do indulge in cheese..well the recipe that I used was a very yummy recipe ( at least to me...but remember, I am also a street food junkie!! ..but not not fast foods...just street foods!)
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Old 11-19-2007, 07:39 AM
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But for those vegans that just don't eat meat, and do indulge in cheese..
Not to put too fine a point on it, if one is a vegan, cheese (containing animal products) is not eaten. No animal products are eaten. Soy-based cheese is acceptable. Perhaps you're confusing veganism with vegetarianism, of which there seem to be different degrees.

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Not to put too fine a point on it, if one is a vegan, cheese (containing animal products) is not eaten. No animal products are eaten. Soy-based cheese is acceptable. Perhaps you're confusing veganism with vegetarianism, of which there seem to be different degrees.

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well ...there you go, thanks for clarifying it, I knew that there are "militant vegans' out there that like to argue the point for those of us with difficulties telling the difference, however casually we interjected into the thread!!
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Both vegetarian, but so different

Lentil soup made with a smoked ham shank, carrots, swede. onions and seasoning So thick you have to be able to stand your spoon up in it. Pick the bone and mix the meat in.


And Tom yum Plenty of recipes around. all are good. Light and exciting and plenty of fresh coriander Thai basil and chillis
I think this is the quote that Shel is talking about - those two well known vegetables - the Pig and the Chicken!
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